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clothes just did you find them all you 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:36,030 think you know much you really do where 59 00:03:02,899 --> 00:02:48,810 [Music] 60 00:03:07,530 --> 00:03:05,849 all right higher side chatters I know I 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:07,540 don't have to tell you about our harsh 62 00:03:12,149 --> 00:03:09,730 and bloody history the centuries-old war 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:12,159 on ideas the system is waged as it's 64 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:14,010 steamrolled culture after culture 65 00:03:18,929 --> 00:03:16,930 tradition after tradition and we see 66 00:03:21,569 --> 00:03:18,939 campaigns like the various crusades 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:21,579 european expansion the holy roman empire 68 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:23,530 the american colonialists and the 69 00:03:28,589 --> 00:03:25,750 conquistadors conquest of Mexico and 70 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:28,599 Peru as some of the major steps towards 71 00:03:34,110 --> 00:03:31,510 our modern monotheistic monoculture and 72 00:03:37,289 --> 00:03:34,120 the root cause for the destruction of so 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:37,299 many indigenous pagan Celtic Native 74 00:03:42,089 --> 00:03:39,090 American and Gnostic worldviews 75 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:42,099 cosmologies and magical traditions and 76 00:03:46,589 --> 00:03:44,620 most of these deep and rich systems have 77 00:03:49,140 --> 00:03:46,599 a lot more depth than meaning then their 78 00:03:50,849 --> 00:03:49,150 destroyers would have you believe much 79 00:03:53,610 --> 00:03:50,859 of which is still fractured and 80 00:03:55,979 --> 00:03:53,620 incomplete and some sadly beyond repair 81 00:03:58,110 --> 00:03:55,989 so I for one perk up when I hear about 82 00:04:00,569 --> 00:03:58,120 an oral tradition that has managed to 83 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:00,579 stay intact after hiding itself away 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:02,290 from those who would destroy it and that 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:03,970 seems to be the case with the body of 86 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:06,010 knowledge known as the Box saga 87 00:04:12,089 --> 00:04:09,729 it is a cosmology a language a mythology 88 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:12,099 and a history all wrapped into one a 89 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:14,260 corpus of concealed information that 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:16,209 claims to be the oldest on the planet 91 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:17,849 and the true origin from which 92 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:19,930 Scandinavian and Finnish cultures 93 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:22,570 emerged the Box saga was a 94 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:24,849 multi-generational secret told orally 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:27,190 through the bak family bloodline until 96 00:04:31,649 --> 00:04:28,810 the last remaining member of the family 97 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:31,659 er bak knew he wouldn't have anyone to 98 00:04:36,089 --> 00:04:33,940 pass the saga on to and began teaching 99 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:36,099 it to a trusted handful of friends with 100 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:38,289 whom it resonated and in turn they 101 00:04:43,860 --> 00:04:41,199 became its teachers and advocates he or 102 00:04:45,659 --> 00:04:43,870 died in 2010 after being stabbed by his 103 00:04:47,159 --> 00:04:45,669 own assistants and one of the last 104 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:47,169 remaining knowledgeable tellers of the 105 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:49,510 material is today's returning guest Jim 106 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:51,529 Chester Jim is an elder 107 00:04:55,779 --> 00:04:53,329 leader of the order of the Gnostics and 108 00:04:58,449 --> 00:04:55,789 the passionate advocate of the box Agha 109 00:05:01,419 --> 00:04:58,459 who in his previous appearance on THC 110 00:05:03,879 --> 00:05:01,429 broke down the cosmology root language 111 00:05:05,949 --> 00:05:03,889 and the story of the hellhole in 112 00:05:07,899 --> 00:05:05,959 Helsinki that is the Earth's original 113 00:05:09,819 --> 00:05:07,909 North Pole and the entrance to the 114 00:05:12,579 --> 00:05:09,829 Hollow Earth from which man first 115 00:05:14,289 --> 00:05:12,589 emerged today he returns to talk about a 116 00:05:16,389 --> 00:05:14,299 few more threads that this material has 117 00:05:18,609 --> 00:05:16,399 to offer and I'm psyched to get down to 118 00:05:20,679 --> 00:05:18,619 it the preserver of lost knowledge and 119 00:05:23,469 --> 00:05:20,689 the bona fide bar to the box saga Jim 120 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:23,479 welcome back to the higher side thank 121 00:05:28,299 --> 00:05:25,669 you so much Greg I really appreciate all 122 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:28,309 this you got it man I think this is 123 00:05:31,599 --> 00:05:29,449 gonna be a lot of fun 124 00:05:34,179 --> 00:05:31,609 I do find this information to be really 125 00:05:37,449 --> 00:05:34,189 compelling it's deep and internally 126 00:05:39,789 --> 00:05:37,459 consistent and anything that the powers 127 00:05:41,559 --> 00:05:39,799 that be tried to kill off I want to help 128 00:05:43,679 --> 00:05:41,569 bring back out of spite more than 129 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:43,689 anything else and this material 130 00:05:47,799 --> 00:05:45,769 incorporates the Hollow Earth so that's 131 00:05:50,739 --> 00:05:47,809 just icing on the cosmological cake if 132 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:50,749 you ask me and this is gonna be a part 133 00:05:55,269 --> 00:05:53,449 two that probably requires a listen to 134 00:05:56,799 --> 00:05:55,279 part one for people to have all the 135 00:05:58,989 --> 00:05:56,809 context because we can't rehash it all 136 00:06:01,659 --> 00:05:58,999 here but I've gotten a few emails from 137 00:06:04,299 --> 00:06:01,669 people over the years two years since we 138 00:06:05,889 --> 00:06:04,309 did the last show who really loved the 139 00:06:08,139 --> 00:06:05,899 story and I've actually made the trip to 140 00:06:10,239 --> 00:06:08,149 house inky to visit the entrance of the 141 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:10,249 Buried temple which houses the BOK 142 00:06:14,769 --> 00:06:12,529 family treasures and artifacts preserved 143 00:06:17,379 --> 00:06:14,779 they say since the beginning of time 144 00:06:19,899 --> 00:06:17,389 leading deep into the earth via that 145 00:06:22,179 --> 00:06:19,909 golden staircase and that's sort of what 146 00:06:25,359 --> 00:06:22,189 set off this part - were having today of 147 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:25,369 course to my knowledge the temple has 148 00:06:29,829 --> 00:06:27,529 still yet to be excavated but it's been 149 00:06:32,979 --> 00:06:29,839 two years are there any updates on 150 00:06:34,719 --> 00:06:32,989 getting in there yes not last summer but 151 00:06:36,369 --> 00:06:34,729 the summer before last they went and 152 00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:36,379 they cleared all the trees and stuff 153 00:06:40,779 --> 00:06:38,449 that have grown around the entrance so 154 00:06:43,929 --> 00:06:40,789 it's all ready to start and we do have a 155 00:06:47,169 --> 00:06:43,939 financial backer again after so many 156 00:06:48,669 --> 00:06:47,179 years of no active involvement there but 157 00:06:51,369 --> 00:06:48,679 now I think this next summer they're 158 00:06:54,579 --> 00:06:51,379 gonna go back in and it should start the 159 00:06:56,799 --> 00:06:54,589 excavation again beautiful beautiful and 160 00:07:01,629 --> 00:06:56,809 just to provide a little more context 161 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:01,639 the temple was closed in 987 AD due to 162 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:04,740 the invading Christian armies and one 163 00:07:09,020 --> 00:07:07,110 to preserve it before they got there it 164 00:07:11,059 --> 00:07:09,030 was then that permission was given to 165 00:07:13,059 --> 00:07:11,069 the last remaining Bock to reopen the 166 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:13,069 temple a thousand years later which was 167 00:07:17,930 --> 00:07:16,289 1987 well you know that hasn't happened 168 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:17,940 yet though you've tried and I pulled 169 00:07:23,150 --> 00:07:19,919 this off the box saga website but 170 00:07:25,219 --> 00:07:23,160 regarding the excavation it says in 1991 171 00:07:27,529 --> 00:07:25,229 the foundations last sponsor stopped 172 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:27,539 supporting the project later that same 173 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:29,849 year a geophysical analysis of the 174 00:07:34,850 --> 00:07:31,710 location was conducted using a 175 00:07:35,450 --> 00:07:34,860 subsurface radar system 25 metres below 176 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:35,460 the ground 177 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:37,919 at a coordinate designated by E or Bach 178 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:40,050 the radar system picked up a dome-shaped 179 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:42,840 hollow space with a roof potentially 180 00:07:46,850 --> 00:07:45,090 made of metal a picture of the ground 181 00:07:49,219 --> 00:07:46,860 conducted at the excavation site 182 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:49,229 indicated that there were only a few 183 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:51,810 meters of excavation needed for an 184 00:07:55,820 --> 00:07:54,449 actual breakthrough to be achieved as of 185 00:07:58,820 --> 00:07:55,830 the time of this writing in February 186 00:08:01,100 --> 00:07:58,830 2002 this breakthrough has not yet been 187 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:01,110 achieved and so obviously that's been 188 00:08:05,689 --> 00:08:03,060 some time and it is great that you now 189 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:05,699 have a financial backer and the brush is 190 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:07,050 cleared and it sounds like something's 191 00:08:11,719 --> 00:08:09,030 about to get going there but it does not 192 00:08:13,450 --> 00:08:11,729 seem like it's even that big of a job 193 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:13,460 and you could probably get this done on 194 00:08:18,740 --> 00:08:16,409 GoFundMe for relatively cheap but I was 195 00:08:21,170 --> 00:08:18,750 curious about those radar images are 196 00:08:24,589 --> 00:08:21,180 those available online anywhere because 197 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:24,599 if those images are real and you were to 198 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:27,150 get them out there this whole thing I 199 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:28,849 would think would just get a lot more 200 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:31,310 attention and support are they out there 201 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:34,380 you know Greg I haven't really seen it 202 00:08:38,899 --> 00:08:36,360 you know I was there when they did the 203 00:08:41,719 --> 00:08:38,909 test and I have seen the result I've 204 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:41,729 seen the dome but I don't know that it's 205 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:44,310 posted at all maybe I'll do something 206 00:08:49,010 --> 00:08:46,410 about that see if I can find someone who 207 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:49,020 has that material yeah I mean it seems 208 00:08:54,590 --> 00:08:53,010 fairly useful and is there a timeline I 209 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:54,600 guess we're ready to start digging again 210 00:08:59,890 --> 00:08:57,600 but have they got any date set for 211 00:09:03,280 --> 00:08:59,900 unearthing this thing 212 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:03,290 our friend Eric Edney there in San Diego 213 00:09:07,150 --> 00:09:05,600 he's helping to do this you know he's 214 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:07,160 financing much of this 215 00:09:11,470 --> 00:09:09,230 there's last summer we just couldn't do 216 00:09:13,330 --> 00:09:11,480 anything but yeah I mean we're ready to 217 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:13,340 go there's a huge stone on the 218 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:15,430 right-hand side there's two Hills there 219 00:09:20,350 --> 00:09:19,010 the hill on the left is a granite hill 220 00:09:24,010 --> 00:09:20,360 it's called 221 00:09:26,170 --> 00:09:24,020 Cebu barrier see means to Cebu means a 222 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:26,180 nest and Bari means a hill so it's the 223 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:28,730 you see the nest hill on the other side 224 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:33,200 there's a huge huge granite stone that's 225 00:09:37,870 --> 00:09:36,050 balanced on three other stones and it's 226 00:09:40,810 --> 00:09:37,880 on the side of a hill called goon boob 227 00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:40,820 area which goon is old woman boom is the 228 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:43,790 nest and buried is hill this is all in 229 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:46,130 root language that I'm speaking so there 230 00:09:50,350 --> 00:09:48,110 are these two Hills and on one side is 231 00:09:53,170 --> 00:09:50,360 this monster stone it's called the 232 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:53,180 sundial stone and so we want to clean 233 00:09:56,950 --> 00:09:54,710 out from underneath that and show that 234 00:09:59,680 --> 00:09:56,960 it's balanced on three stones right on 235 00:10:03,670 --> 00:09:59,690 the edge of this hill that's what our 236 00:10:06,370 --> 00:10:03,680 next objective is great and obviously 237 00:10:08,890 --> 00:10:06,380 it's always hard to get a smoking gun to 238 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:08,900 prove that some alternative knowledge 239 00:10:13,810 --> 00:10:11,000 has value I know the box saga gets a lot 240 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:13,820 of mixed reviews out there but I look 241 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:15,770 for things on the edges to try to make 242 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:18,050 these sorts of judgment calls and here 243 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:19,790 are a few things that made me more 244 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:22,010 curious we all know Wikipedia just 245 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:23,450 sticks to the mainstream and tries to 246 00:10:28,210 --> 00:10:25,910 minimize the alternative but even on the 247 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:28,220 box sagas Wikipedia page it says a 248 00:10:34,210 --> 00:10:30,890 number of digs in the cave were made on 249 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:34,220 various occasions from 1987 to 1998 250 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:37,090 after two summers of excavation an 251 00:10:42,490 --> 00:10:40,220 entrance into the mountain was actually 252 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:42,500 revealed the following years a hallway 253 00:10:48,460 --> 00:10:45,340 of granite walls floor and ceiling 254 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:48,470 filled with clay mix sand and gravel was 255 00:10:52,930 --> 00:10:51,050 excavated about 50 meters beyond the 256 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:52,940 entrance the statement made by the 257 00:10:57,730 --> 00:10:55,310 family and saga of the subterranean 258 00:11:00,190 --> 00:10:57,740 hallway was actually proven to exist 259 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:00,200 moreover the excavated area has also 260 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:03,710 proven to be by far the largest cave 261 00:11:08,290 --> 00:11:06,560 ever found in Finland inside there are 262 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:08,300 straight walls with the ceiling and 263 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:11,690 floor consisting of granite so I mean 264 00:11:16,060 --> 00:11:13,250 that's a lot of Confirmation and 265 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:16,070 I start to wonder how could a or have 266 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:19,310 known such a big discovery was there any 267 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:23,120 other way it seems like that is a little 268 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:25,760 bit of context that helps to verify this 269 00:11:30,250 --> 00:11:28,730 story yeah I mean his family you know 270 00:11:33,490 --> 00:11:30,260 they went through a lot of effort to 271 00:11:35,470 --> 00:11:33,500 pass this information down and they gave 272 00:11:37,510 --> 00:11:35,480 pretty well detail about you know I mean 273 00:11:40,660 --> 00:11:37,520 they their family closed it up a 274 00:11:42,850 --> 00:11:40,670 thousand and thirty four years ago they 275 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:42,860 explained what was inside who was 276 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:44,930 responsible for building it who was 277 00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:46,670 responsible for filling it up with all 278 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:50,270 this beautiful artwork and the purpose 279 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:52,850 of the temple and the temple itself it's 280 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:55,550 very small it's only for two people but 281 00:11:59,950 --> 00:11:57,560 the storehouse underneath it is what we 282 00:12:02,740 --> 00:11:59,960 would call the Hollow Earth that huge 283 00:12:04,690 --> 00:12:02,750 cavern it's at the North Pole I mean 284 00:12:07,450 --> 00:12:04,700 it's a piece of art I mean they cut away 285 00:12:09,370 --> 00:12:07,460 the walls they plated it all with gold a 286 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:09,380 golden pathway that goes down and one 287 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:12,710 spear I'll borrow fifty thousands of 288 00:12:17,410 --> 00:12:14,930 kilometers it took this temple as 289 00:12:19,690 --> 00:12:17,420 millions of years old it's not built you 290 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:19,700 know in a few years it's over many many 291 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:23,420 many generations of the family right and 292 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:25,580 last time I talked to you we kind of 293 00:12:30,730 --> 00:12:28,550 jumped right into the cosmology and the 294 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:30,740 structure of the universe and how this 295 00:12:36,220 --> 00:12:33,710 all came to be and that is great but we 296 00:12:37,870 --> 00:12:36,230 didn't really talk about he or much at 297 00:12:39,940 --> 00:12:37,880 all and I've learned a little bit and I 298 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:39,950 wanted to make this point because your 299 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:42,110 bak was attacked several times during 300 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:44,510 his life after he started spreading this 301 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:48,410 story in 1999 an attack in his home left 302 00:12:51,790 --> 00:12:49,910 him a quadriplegic 303 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:51,800 and ten years later he was actually 304 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:54,800 killed just to use Wikipedia again it 305 00:13:00,010 --> 00:12:58,160 says in October 2010 your bak was 306 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:00,020 stabbed to death in his apartment in 307 00:13:05,530 --> 00:13:02,450 Helsinki police arrested two male 308 00:13:07,750 --> 00:13:05,540 suspects of Indian origin who had shared 309 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:07,760 his apartment and had worked as his 310 00:13:12,370 --> 00:13:09,830 personal assistants according to the 311 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:12,380 police a quarrel had preceded the act of 312 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:15,440 homicide in November the police reported 313 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:18,140 that the younger suspect was set free 314 00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:20,510 and no longer considered a suspect on 315 00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:23,900 September 7 2011 the finished police 316 00:13:29,799 --> 00:13:26,899 deported the other suspect a court found 317 00:13:31,989 --> 00:13:29,809 and criminally unaccountable so we have 318 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:31,999 e or a man who was attacked multiple 319 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:33,740 times after he started to speak out 320 00:13:38,530 --> 00:13:35,990 about this and two assistants ended up 321 00:13:40,989 --> 00:13:38,540 stabbing this quadriplegic man who was 322 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:40,999 almost 70 and then they were released I 323 00:13:47,049 --> 00:13:44,089 mean that's a bit fishy you know that is 324 00:13:49,359 --> 00:13:47,059 pretty fishy then consider that you and 325 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:49,369 your team were busted with hash during 326 00:13:53,079 --> 00:13:50,929 one of the excavations and you ended up 327 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:53,089 going to prison if you read between 328 00:13:57,669 --> 00:13:55,970 these lines it looks like someone wanted 329 00:14:00,100 --> 00:13:57,679 any reason they could to shut this 330 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:00,110 excavation down gave you a pretty harsh 331 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:02,959 punishment for hash meanwhile a or is 332 00:14:07,780 --> 00:14:05,360 actually killed and no one faces any 333 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:07,790 real punishment this all sounds like 334 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:09,740 containment to me it definitely doesn't 335 00:14:15,549 --> 00:14:13,040 smell right you're absolutely right 100% 336 00:14:18,309 --> 00:14:15,559 Greg it's really not right the first boy 337 00:14:20,390 --> 00:14:18,319 was a finish point who stabbed him in 338 00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:20,400 1999 339 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:21,960 worked his way into his apartment 340 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:24,150 stabbed him in the chest three times and 341 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:25,970 he died and they brought him back and 342 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:29,490 yes he was a paraplegic but we spent 343 00:14:33,769 --> 00:14:31,529 years in India after that his mind was 344 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:33,779 completely clear he can still smoke the 345 00:14:37,690 --> 00:14:35,250 pipe he could still drink his tea he 346 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:37,700 just couldn't walk anymore 347 00:14:41,740 --> 00:14:39,980 and they put this guy in some nuthouse 348 00:14:42,910 --> 00:14:41,750 for six months or something they let him 349 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:42,920 go 350 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:47,120 and in the second attack in 2010 is two 351 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:49,790 Indian boys from where we stay it we 352 00:14:54,129 --> 00:14:52,010 have a place in India a place called Goa 353 00:14:55,870 --> 00:14:54,139 a little village called sure poorer 354 00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:55,880 that's where the Sagar came out and 355 00:15:00,460 --> 00:14:57,740 that's where the group of us that listen 356 00:15:04,569 --> 00:15:00,470 to the saga we would go back and forth 357 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:04,579 between Helsinki and go up and these two 358 00:15:11,230 --> 00:15:08,089 boys that were taking care for one of 359 00:15:15,310 --> 00:15:11,240 his incredible beautiful man he really 360 00:15:18,129 --> 00:15:15,320 is a Beebe I think the other boy could 361 00:15:21,850 --> 00:15:18,139 kill you or they just let him go 362 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:21,860 you know Finland I don't know why if you 363 00:15:24,930 --> 00:15:23,720 and I went to Finland and we hurt any 364 00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:24,940 Finnish person 365 00:15:28,990 --> 00:15:27,199 we'd be in jail I mean they're very 366 00:15:32,769 --> 00:15:29,000 strict there about that kind of stuff 367 00:15:34,329 --> 00:15:32,779 and yet the two attacks on er Finland 368 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:34,339 turned their face let both of them go 369 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:37,910 like no penalty at all I think pennilyn 370 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:40,639 just doesn't want a or a story to go out 371 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:43,250 they've been giving us negative press 372 00:15:50,740 --> 00:15:46,550 and negative this since 1987 since we 373 00:15:52,569 --> 00:15:50,750 started digging the temple there and it 374 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:52,579 is a very fishy story 375 00:15:58,710 --> 00:15:55,610 I don't know how Finland can do this but 376 00:16:01,630 --> 00:15:58,720 you know II or himself he was amazing on 377 00:16:03,550 --> 00:16:01,640 the first attack he didn't want anything 378 00:16:05,860 --> 00:16:03,560 that happened to the boy that nearly 379 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:05,870 killed him he hope he got better and he 380 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:09,050 could go back into society he or wasn't 381 00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:11,209 one of these people who held grudges I 382 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:13,640 mean if somebody attacked me like that 383 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:15,440 you know whatever I can do I'm going to 384 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:17,930 get them back but he didn't have that 385 00:16:22,970 --> 00:16:21,000 kind of a heart about 386 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:22,980 he understood all this was going to 387 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:24,990 happen you know when you come out with 388 00:16:31,070 --> 00:16:27,930 such a story and such information you're 389 00:16:33,140 --> 00:16:31,080 gonna have repercussions from the powers 390 00:16:36,380 --> 00:16:33,150 that be and that's all these years I 391 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:36,390 watched them and his government just try 392 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,570 to put him on the back burner and 393 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:40,560 absolutely I mean that's kind of what 394 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:42,390 I'm thinking is if this is just some 395 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:45,120 crazy kook with wild stories you'd 396 00:16:51,380 --> 00:16:47,490 expect him to just drift off into 397 00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:51,390 oblivion and die an old man but for a 398 00:16:57,620 --> 00:16:55,980 quadriplegic in his 70s to be killed and 399 00:16:59,720 --> 00:16:57,630 then that person not held accountable 400 00:17:02,000 --> 00:16:59,730 and just assured out of the country 401 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:02,010 that's very fishy and again like I 402 00:17:06,590 --> 00:17:03,930 mentioned when you were doing an 403 00:17:08,510 --> 00:17:06,600 excavation they came through and found 404 00:17:10,550 --> 00:17:08,520 some hash and locked you guys up and 405 00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:10,560 it's like did they lock you up because 406 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:12,270 they found hash or because they don't 407 00:17:17,150 --> 00:17:14,550 want this excavated it's a very curious 408 00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:17,160 thing these situations have happened 409 00:17:22,460 --> 00:17:19,790 before so it's unfortunate that we can't 410 00:17:24,980 --> 00:17:22,470 trust the official story because there's 411 00:17:28,460 --> 00:17:24,990 always a subtext and these things are 412 00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:28,470 all pushing the needle into the realm of 413 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:30,390 credibility as far as I'm concerned and 414 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,540 something I also heard you mention on 415 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:35,520 another show but we didn't talk about it 416 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:38,970 was something about a museum being built 417 00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:42,510 by the Russians over the location well I 418 00:17:45,620 --> 00:17:43,800 don't know what the deal is with that 419 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:45,630 but I'm confident that governments use 420 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:48,240 this sort of tactic to cover things up 421 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:50,850 when they can is this the case here as 422 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:52,950 well do you think that a cover-up has 423 00:17:58,700 --> 00:17:55,530 anything to do with this museum that's 424 00:18:00,500 --> 00:17:58,710 apparently been built well the museum is 425 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:00,510 actually built by the Russians in the 426 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:03,780 end of the 19th century it's on the 427 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:06,570 island where the north pole is there is 428 00:18:11,810 --> 00:18:08,790 an exact location where there is one 429 00:18:14,270 --> 00:18:11,820 hole in the very top of the pole and 430 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:14,280 it's called the holy 431 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:16,710 the whole he is the axle of the planet 432 00:18:21,649 --> 00:18:18,870 we call it I in English but it's a pole 433 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:21,659 with a dot above it so that represents 434 00:18:26,990 --> 00:18:24,510 the axis of the planet the pole is a 435 00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:27,000 little dot above the pole is the North 436 00:18:33,649 --> 00:18:31,140 Star so in the very top of the axis of 437 00:18:35,419 --> 00:18:33,659 the planet it comes from one island 438 00:18:38,570 --> 00:18:35,429 about three kilometers in front of 439 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:38,580 Helsinki called Susi sorry before called 440 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:42,630 Island Earth the island of Eden and on 441 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:44,850 the middle of this island is this exact 442 00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:47,039 North Pole and the Russians built a 443 00:18:52,730 --> 00:18:49,679 museum right on top of what we call 444 00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:52,740 Valhalla this hole is called Valhalla 445 00:18:57,919 --> 00:18:55,919 and mythology it's a real physical place 446 00:19:00,350 --> 00:18:57,929 it's still there today and straight 447 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:00,360 above that is a round room where I stand 448 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:02,850 in one of my videos and I say that this 449 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:05,039 is the meridian line that divides the 450 00:19:10,430 --> 00:19:07,260 east from the west and so I can put one 451 00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:10,440 foot on the east and one foot in to the 452 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:13,020 west and that line goes straight from 453 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:16,110 that hole down to Poland it divides 454 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:18,570 Crete in half and goes dr. round to 455 00:19:24,409 --> 00:19:20,610 Hawaii on this side and back to Helsinki 456 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:24,419 and that's the original zero line they 457 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:26,850 move the zero line over to Greenwich in 458 00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:29,970 the 18th century or the 19th century 459 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:33,240 excuse me and it was a conscious effort 460 00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:35,610 that they did that up partly of what the 461 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:37,590 Crimean War is about when they blew this 462 00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:41,010 castle up in front of Helsinki was to 463 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,380 move this so actually the whole planet 464 00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:45,360 is one hour off in time if you really 465 00:19:50,539 --> 00:19:47,340 want to be correct mm-hmm 466 00:19:52,940 --> 00:19:50,549 well I don't doubt that many things have 467 00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:52,950 been moved and obscured to hide truth 468 00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:57,480 and like we said last time this cultural 469 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,600 memory or this subconscious memory of a 470 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:03,840 holy land this was what we're talking 471 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:06,809 about is this whole in Helsinki and 472 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:10,220 obviously the religious authorities 473 00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:13,470 destroyed all that and moved the holy 474 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:17,640 land to Israel but the whole idea of 475 00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:20,100 Hell being a negative place that is 476 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:21,840 underground that you don't want to go I 477 00:20:26,539 --> 00:20:24,360 mean this is the same way they removed 478 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,549 magic from culture said it's bad it's 479 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:28,080 evil don't go there 480 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:31,290 it seems to have a similar residue to it 481 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:33,570 and I guess I'm also curious what is the 482 00:20:38,990 --> 00:20:35,370 name of that Museum what do you suspect 483 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:39,000 is under that foundation I think it's 484 00:20:43,670 --> 00:20:42,150 called the Aaron sport Aaron's board he 485 00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:43,680 was the one that was responsible for 486 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:45,720 building that is what they call sailor 487 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:48,510 boy the castle of Sweden and Finnish 488 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:51,210 they call it sua Molina but a castle of 489 00:20:57,020 --> 00:20:54,090 Finland it was when castle built there 490 00:20:59,930 --> 00:20:57,030 in the 1750 I think when they started to 491 00:21:02,090 --> 00:20:59,940 build it to make a fortification because 492 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:02,100 the Sweden in the Russia was they were 493 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:03,840 in battle with each other and the 494 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:06,930 Russians would come over via Finland and 495 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:09,840 these small and these rowing boats and 496 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:12,630 they would attack Stockholm and so they 497 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:14,730 built this castle and they had 498 00:21:18,830 --> 00:21:16,530 shipbuilding and everything in this 499 00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:18,840 castle on these seven islands and hell 500 00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:21,060 has seven hills and seven islands in 501 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,390 front of hill and so they built this 502 00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:25,440 castle called 503 00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:29,460 swale bori so they could help stop these 504 00:21:37,550 --> 00:21:32,550 attacks from russia to sweden and then 505 00:21:39,410 --> 00:21:37,560 in 1850 by the crimean war the english 506 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,420 and the ranch came up and they blew this 507 00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:41,760 island and they blew this everything of 508 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:44,190 pieces because this was the ozera line 509 00:21:48,050 --> 00:21:46,110 and they were you know they didn't want 510 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:48,060 anyone to know that hell is the zero 511 00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:49,620 line from before hmm 512 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,350 so it's a very big conspiracy no one 513 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:54,000 knows about this except for the Bach 514 00:21:59,150 --> 00:21:56,130 Manley and of course whoever hears this 515 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:59,160 but it was completely put underneath 516 00:22:04,910 --> 00:22:01,740 everything but Greenwich is not the zero 517 00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:04,920 line and yeah it's like that well I know 518 00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:06,870 so many things have been altered 519 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:09,270 calendars have been altered language 520 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:12,510 holidays it all hides the truth 521 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,610 underneath and over here you know I've 522 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:16,320 done shows talking about national parks 523 00:22:21,410 --> 00:22:18,210 that the government will place a 524 00:22:24,170 --> 00:22:21,420 national park around something that kind 525 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:24,180 of wants to preserve yet keep secret we 526 00:22:28,550 --> 00:22:25,860 hear about people going missing in these 527 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:28,560 parks we hear about energy nodes these 528 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:30,090 kind of things that were important to 529 00:22:36,260 --> 00:22:32,730 Native Americans now they're roped off 530 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:36,270 and people are charged admission to go 531 00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:38,370 on the pre-approved paths but off of 532 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:40,260 those paths no one really knows what's 533 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:41,880 out there except 534 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:44,790 a few people behind the scenes maybe 535 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,410 some of the indigenous people really 536 00:22:51,170 --> 00:22:48,480 know but they're afraid to say anything 537 00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:51,180 because if you say anything today 538 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:53,070 anything can happen to your family 539 00:22:57,290 --> 00:22:54,930 anything can happen to anything so 540 00:23:00,290 --> 00:22:57,300 everybody you know there's a lot of 541 00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:00,300 information it's being kept in different 542 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:02,460 sources it just can't come out because 543 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:04,830 people are afraid to do it absolutely 544 00:23:10,940 --> 00:23:08,310 and one more thing to add credibility to 545 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:10,950 this oral tradition last time you had 546 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:13,230 mentioned that this temple is not the 547 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,570 only site that houses hidden treasures 548 00:23:19,670 --> 00:23:17,280 and artifacts related to the box Agha 549 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:19,680 and according to what I read from 550 00:23:25,910 --> 00:23:22,850 another impartial source 551 00:23:27,980 --> 00:23:25,920 Kajaani Castle is one of these places 552 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:27,990 and they go on to say according to Bach 553 00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:29,850 a castle was situated in the place 554 00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:32,790 already in the 13th century when the 555 00:23:38,210 --> 00:23:35,340 Royal treasure of the kings of Finland 556 00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:38,220 including a golden buck statue was 557 00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:40,440 hidden in a well in the courtyard of the 558 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:42,780 castle some excitement arose when 559 00:23:48,980 --> 00:23:46,050 ground-penetrating radar again suggested 560 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,990 that a sizeable metal object was located 561 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,360 at four meters depth of the courtyard of 562 00:23:56,660 --> 00:23:53,840 the fort according to the state 563 00:23:58,370 --> 00:23:56,670 archaeologists the item was probably 564 00:24:00,050 --> 00:23:58,380 just an old cannon that could have 565 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:00,060 fallen into the well during the 566 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:02,850 destruction of the fort in 1716 during 567 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:04,890 an archaeological excavation made later 568 00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:07,650 in 2006 it was noticed that an 569 00:24:12,530 --> 00:24:09,720 electrical ground cable had been dug in 570 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:12,540 the courtyard at 40 meters depth 571 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:15,810 according to the project manager of the 572 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:18,450 National Board of Antiquities it was 573 00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:21,600 most probably the object noticed in the 574 00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:23,700 ground penetrating radar investigations 575 00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:26,940 so again there you have it er is saying 576 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:29,670 hey there is something here they find it 577 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:32,070 with radar and then official government 578 00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:33,900 archaeologists without even seeing it 579 00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:35,910 say oh it's probably nothing it's 580 00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:37,620 probably just a cannon that fell in the 581 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:40,470 well or an electrical wire and then 582 00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:43,230 later you know it's just like no one 583 00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:45,150 seems to go actually get that thing it 584 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:46,830 just seems very much like the sort of 585 00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:49,170 excuses they give to cover-up and 586 00:24:53,150 --> 00:24:50,910 dismiss many things that don't fit the 587 00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:53,160 narrative it's just another notch in the 588 00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:55,380 belt of credibility I would say 589 00:24:59,720 --> 00:24:57,539 yeah it's just crazy you know you go to 590 00:25:03,680 --> 00:24:59,730 the name that little castle is called 591 00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:03,690 kyani kyani kyani it's about 500 592 00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:05,480 kilometers north of hill 593 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:08,760 it's where the bak family were part of 594 00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:10,590 the bak man they went into exile when 595 00:25:15,169 --> 00:25:12,390 the hill was destroyed in 1050 by the 596 00:25:17,299 --> 00:25:15,179 Catholic Church where the family went up 597 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:17,309 in the very north in a place called 598 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:19,590 korvatunturi way up in the north of 599 00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:21,570 Finland in the other part of the family 600 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:24,299 went over to this little castle that's 601 00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:27,690 where they sat for 200 well from 1050 to 602 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:29,940 1250 and they came back down to South 603 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:33,150 Yemen but yes you know another thing - 604 00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:35,100 in one of my videos we go to a place 605 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:38,940 called Susi Lou Ola and Finnish language 606 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:41,610 in English it comes to wolf cave anyone 607 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:45,320 can Google wolf cave Finland and there 608 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,200 in 1995 they made an excavation on the 609 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:51,360 actually the largest cave in Finland and 610 00:25:56,270 --> 00:25:54,150 they found many floors that went down 611 00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:56,280 and down and down and down and these are 612 00:26:02,020 --> 00:25:58,500 geologists archaeologists from all over 613 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:02,030 the planet became a dis finished and 614 00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:04,890 their findings they found tools they 615 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:07,230 found fire building they found Mastodon 616 00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:09,090 bones that these people have been eating 617 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:11,700 they found seal bones that they've been 618 00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:13,200 eating and this place is about I don't 619 00:26:17,299 --> 00:26:15,419 know 50 or 60 miles from the coast so 620 00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:17,309 they had gone to the coast and brought 621 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:21,299 these seals over to cook and in this 622 00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:24,690 early Explorer that they went down to is 623 00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:27,299 around 450 thousand years in the upper 624 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,590 floor is about a hundred and thirty 625 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,240 thousand years so there were people 626 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:33,120 living in this Neman half a million 627 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:35,190 years ago that archaeologists and 628 00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:37,650 geologists who dated this excavation and 629 00:26:42,770 --> 00:26:40,380 this box akka came out many years before 630 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:42,780 this excavation and he or was already 631 00:26:46,399 --> 00:26:44,190 talking about these people who were 632 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:46,409 living in Finland a half a million years 633 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:48,870 ago this is the story about where the 634 00:26:53,630 --> 00:26:50,880 white people come from the blue eyes the 635 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,640 light here the white skin it's pretty 636 00:26:58,460 --> 00:26:56,640 obvious that this white race of people 637 00:27:00,320 --> 00:26:58,470 who come from the way up in the north 638 00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:00,330 somewhere but no one has a story about 639 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:03,419 it anymore right and it does just seem 640 00:27:08,509 --> 00:27:06,090 like the remnants and fingerprints of 641 00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:08,519 the usher people are 642 00:27:12,529 --> 00:27:10,889 all over the Finland area and I know 643 00:27:14,989 --> 00:27:12,539 you're probably a little anxious to 644 00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:14,999 relay more information from the saga 645 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:16,769 itself but I just wanted to get some of 646 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:20,190 those details out there and also ask if 647 00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:22,169 maybe there are other sites like the 648 00:27:26,509 --> 00:27:23,940 couple we've mentioned that might also 649 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,519 contain treasures or artifacts that 650 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:29,279 could verify this story how many sites 651 00:27:34,249 --> 00:27:31,950 might there be well there's another 652 00:27:37,089 --> 00:27:34,259 place that I actually didn't put in the 653 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,099 video is called the offer London an 654 00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:40,080 offer means to offer something and 655 00:27:47,329 --> 00:27:43,889 London means a grove of trees so it was 656 00:27:49,249 --> 00:27:47,339 an old outside offering place where we 657 00:27:53,209 --> 00:27:49,259 had an offering system before and it's 658 00:27:56,719 --> 00:27:53,219 near when Castle kollross suppori about 659 00:27:59,930 --> 00:27:56,729 80 kilometres to the west of Hell there 660 00:28:03,169 --> 00:27:59,940 they buried the throne of the king of 661 00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:03,179 Finland they buried three crystal balls 662 00:28:09,979 --> 00:28:06,869 one was from the paradise time before 663 00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:09,989 Iceland one was one that they used under 664 00:28:16,579 --> 00:28:13,200 the ice and astrology system this 665 00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:16,589 astrology system and the other best of 666 00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:19,499 all it's for the future so we have these 667 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:21,419 three periods of time in the store we 668 00:28:25,459 --> 00:28:23,129 have what we call the power IDs through 669 00:28:27,129 --> 00:28:25,469 the paradise town before the tilt of the 670 00:28:29,779 --> 00:28:27,139 planet when the whole ball was tropical 671 00:28:32,659 --> 00:28:29,789 and then we have the ice times or the 672 00:28:35,749 --> 00:28:32,669 all Plante's times when all the lands 673 00:28:38,719 --> 00:28:35,759 were ice and then we have a future story 674 00:28:40,579 --> 00:28:38,729 also about it says that this axel is 675 00:28:41,989 --> 00:28:40,589 getting ready to flip back up that we're 676 00:28:44,029 --> 00:28:41,999 going to go straight back up where 677 00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:44,039 Helsinki is will be the very North Pole 678 00:28:49,129 --> 00:28:47,190 again that's why this ice this global 679 00:28:51,739 --> 00:28:49,139 warming is all happening is because we 680 00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,749 have to melt this ice off before the 681 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:53,760 planet can flip back 682 00:28:58,670 --> 00:28:56,450 and that's all for this future thing 683 00:29:02,390 --> 00:28:58,680 right I think that's a really 684 00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:02,400 fascinating part of the saga is Atlantis 685 00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:05,670 is apparently derived from all land ice 686 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:10,560 and you say or the saga says it was a 687 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,350 place and a time period it was an age 688 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:15,840 the Ice Age I think that's really 689 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:18,090 interesting because if Helsinki used to 690 00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:20,070 be the original North Pole and now we 691 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:22,140 have the earth's tilt and this is all 692 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:24,810 related to the ice or I guess the weight 693 00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,330 of that ice and it's melting off now 694 00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:29,760 right during the time period in which 695 00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:33,720 the saga says the ice will melt and the 696 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:37,020 planet will self-correct and will 697 00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:41,190 re-enter the global paradise time of 698 00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:45,240 tropical lush weather is that more or 699 00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:48,120 less the case you know we have a word 700 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:50,790 that we in English we say balance so we 701 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:53,810 lose the Association because we say bow 702 00:30:00,890 --> 00:29:57,210 but in root language balance is called 703 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:00,900 balance and ball is a ball and it's 704 00:30:06,510 --> 00:30:02,930 earth is one ball 705 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:06,520 it's one atmosphere sphere is a ball 706 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:10,130 atmosphere mousses the moister steer is 707 00:30:15,650 --> 00:30:12,470 a round ball and out on the end is the 708 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:15,660 air so the app moves to their error 709 00:30:21,890 --> 00:30:18,750 so we have this ball in the middle of 710 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:21,900 this ball we have one pole North Pole 711 00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:24,510 South Pole we can also call it one axle 712 00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:27,990 but we can call it one e RI in English 713 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:30,540 but we can also call it one Lance and 714 00:30:36,020 --> 00:30:33,600 Lance's one pole so in the middle of 715 00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:36,030 this earth is one Lance this ball and 716 00:30:41,810 --> 00:30:38,760 this Lance when the planet was sitting 717 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:41,820 straight up and down and this Lance was 718 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:44,750 sitting upright instead of tilted over 719 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:48,210 the planet was in balance we were 720 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:51,840 spinning in harmony with the moon but 721 00:30:59,930 --> 00:30:55,770 now since it tilted we're out of balance 722 00:31:02,870 --> 00:30:59,940 the Lance fell out so we're out of 723 00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:02,880 balance the the earth this story says 724 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:05,430 that that this Lance in this ball is 725 00:31:08,270 --> 00:31:06,810 going to tilt back up here 726 00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:08,280 he or I thought it was going to happen 727 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:11,180 his life bound but it didn't 728 00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:14,030 this whole thing about global warm it's 729 00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:16,700 all caused by the Sun it's all on 730 00:31:22,930 --> 00:31:18,380 purpose because we're getting ready to 731 00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:22,940 have the new nude paradise Ecola hmm and 732 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:25,550 right according to the Saga the earth is 733 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:28,610 round but there are no other planets the 734 00:31:34,330 --> 00:31:31,310 Stars are not distant Suns and there are 735 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:34,340 no other beans we're sort of it seems 736 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:38,290 like in an enclosure of some kind well 737 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:40,700 according to this there's one solar 738 00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:45,430 system the Sun is the Sun is not a star 739 00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:48,230 even according to the Greeks they called 740 00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:51,110 Mars and Venus and Saturn and Mercury 741 00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:54,560 they Coleman the wandering star it 742 00:31:59,140 --> 00:31:56,270 didn't call them the wandering planets 743 00:32:01,840 --> 00:31:59,150 so I don't know really when they started 744 00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:01,850 calling Mars and Venus planets I really 745 00:32:05,650 --> 00:32:03,320 would love to find out when that 746 00:32:08,170 --> 00:32:05,660 actually happened because in the old way 747 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:08,180 of thinking we even called Mars and 748 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:09,770 Venus we call them the morning and the 749 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:12,530 evening star well you can't be a star 750 00:32:18,130 --> 00:32:15,470 and a planet and nearly every language 751 00:32:20,410 --> 00:32:18,140 calls in the morning star the Venus so I 752 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:20,420 mean it's it can't be a star and a 753 00:32:24,910 --> 00:32:22,610 planet at the same time according to 754 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:24,920 this there's one Sun it shines in all 755 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:27,050 directions stars are made of metal ice 756 00:32:31,690 --> 00:32:30,050 and gas there are all millions of them 757 00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:31,700 but they reflect the Sun if the Sun 758 00:32:36,610 --> 00:32:33,700 didn't shine the stars wouldn't shine 759 00:32:38,530 --> 00:32:36,620 Mars wouldn't shine Venus wouldn't shine 760 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:38,540 this earth would be dead everything in 761 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:41,330 the universe would be black so we put it 762 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:43,430 all to one Sun is the power to 763 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:46,130 everything that exists and we call this 764 00:32:54,190 --> 00:32:51,050 Sun Odin and our suelen everything on 765 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:54,200 this planet every butterfly every design 766 00:32:58,270 --> 00:32:55,730 on its wing a thousand different 767 00:33:00,640 --> 00:32:58,280 butterflies full of all different kinds 768 00:33:03,310 --> 00:33:00,650 of designs and colors they're all 769 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:03,320 consciously made by the Sun the Sun is 770 00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:06,530 the intelligent design without the sun 771 00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:08,960 shining this planet would freeze it 772 00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:09,680 would be dark 773 00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:11,480 everything would die there would be no 774 00:33:17,740 --> 00:33:14,000 soul no life no nothing no consciousness 775 00:33:20,590 --> 00:33:17,750 so the Sun is conscious you were talking 776 00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:20,600 about entities that were not human I 777 00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:23,180 would have to say the Sun would have to 778 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:25,190 follow that one because the 779 00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:27,410 sign is not a human but yet it's 780 00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:30,080 consciously creating everything living 781 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:31,760 on this planet and it's consciously 782 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,490 given the light to the moon to what we 783 00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:36,320 call our planets which are really stars 784 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:38,960 and every star in the universe wouldn't 785 00:33:44,110 --> 00:33:41,510 shine they're not Suns within themselves 786 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:44,120 that's another really huge thing I mean 787 00:33:48,850 --> 00:33:47,050 they have no pictures of the surface of 788 00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:48,860 anything in deep space 789 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:52,790 the closest star is 28 trillion miles 790 00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,330 and they cannot see all they really see 791 00:34:00,970 --> 00:33:58,640 with the Hubble and the most fantastic 792 00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:00,980 telescope they have they really just see 793 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:03,620 a little light dot in a dark background 794 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:05,990 just what we see with our eyes but just 795 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:07,610 a little bit bigger but they see little 796 00:34:12,730 --> 00:34:10,760 colors all the colors NASA puts in these 797 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:12,740 beautiful films they had here on earth 798 00:34:17,410 --> 00:34:15,410 it's all a fake and they have no idea 799 00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:17,420 what these stars are they think they're 800 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:20,150 all Suns all have universe around them 801 00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:22,490 and I mean they just keep multiverses it 802 00:34:29,590 --> 00:34:27,320 says universe Unni unit unit unicycle 803 00:34:32,110 --> 00:34:29,600 unique so I mean you know they just 804 00:34:34,090 --> 00:34:32,120 these guys get paid a lot of money but 805 00:34:35,530 --> 00:34:34,100 they have to say something so they just 806 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:35,540 say it wrong and they're teaching our 807 00:34:44,020 --> 00:34:39,610 University children will [\h__\h] no I can 808 00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:44,030 well obviously I find any alternative 809 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:46,640 model to be really provocative you say 810 00:34:53,050 --> 00:34:49,130 according to the Saga the stars are made 811 00:34:56,410 --> 00:34:53,060 of metal ice and gas are they floating 812 00:35:00,370 --> 00:34:56,420 out in the ether are they attached to 813 00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:00,380 some type of enclosure are they just 814 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,540 disembodied what are they can you give 815 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:04,400 us some more details or elaborate on 816 00:35:10,270 --> 00:35:07,610 what those little lights in the sky are 817 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,280 supposed to be well all three of these 818 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:12,560 materials were highly reflective all ice 819 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:15,250 gas and metal 820 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:18,430 so they're all just reflecting the Sun I 821 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:20,920 mean they're in a vacuum they're in a 822 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:24,010 space the farther away from the Sun you 823 00:35:29,730 --> 00:35:27,340 go the colder gets so we do know that 824 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:29,740 life can exist here on this earth but 825 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:31,840 you go the next ball out it's too cold 826 00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:33,730 when the next ball ends to hot so we're 827 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:37,359 really in a ideal situation I offer 828 00:35:42,089 --> 00:35:40,330 today I still offer five thousand 829 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:42,099 dollars for anyone to bring me a picture 830 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:44,500 of another Sun it doesn't exist they 831 00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:46,780 just do not happen it does not exist 832 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:50,260 they're just saying that they know but 833 00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:52,090 according to this yeah if the Sun didn't 834 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,300 shine there's an old saying I don't know 835 00:35:59,700 --> 00:35:56,800 if we really want to go into this but 836 00:36:01,730 --> 00:35:59,710 there's an old point in English very old 837 00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:01,740 and he goes like this 838 00:36:09,819 --> 00:36:04,940 Budhan is a ring 839 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:09,829 Budhan is ever reading Budhan has always 840 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:14,630 been in Odin will always be in Odin as 841 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:18,170 the Sun so into saga we say there was no 842 00:36:22,839 --> 00:36:20,930 Big Bang and there certainly wasn't some 843 00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:22,849 invisible guy who made it all in six 844 00:36:27,790 --> 00:36:24,849 days who lives up there somewhere 845 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:27,800 for us we say that the universe has 846 00:36:34,789 --> 00:36:32,160 always been and it will always be 847 00:36:37,609 --> 00:36:34,799 it had no beginning it will have no 848 00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:37,619 ending there never was a time of total 849 00:36:42,849 --> 00:36:39,960 darkness there never will be a time of 850 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:42,859 total darkness and this is called 851 00:36:48,529 --> 00:36:46,170 eternity no beginning and no end in the 852 00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,539 time and when you look out into the 853 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:50,160 space into the night into those 854 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:53,130 beautiful stars those stars go forever 855 00:37:00,160 --> 00:36:56,130 and ever and ever there's no end to them 856 00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:00,170 and that's called eternity hmm no indeed 857 00:37:07,220 --> 00:37:03,630 so the universe in itself is the 858 00:37:11,059 --> 00:37:07,230 Eternity it is the infinity it is the 859 00:37:13,609 --> 00:37:11,069 hall and a source of all is the Sun if 860 00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:13,619 the Sun didn't shine this planet would 861 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:15,780 be dead moon wouldn't shine Mars 862 00:37:21,529 --> 00:37:17,849 wouldn't shine the Stars wouldn't shine 863 00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:21,539 it would be total black total life so 864 00:37:26,299 --> 00:37:23,700 for us this is not some kind of just 865 00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:26,309 ball of gas up there that you know we 866 00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:28,710 can go find another place to live and 867 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:31,020 all this no it's really this is all on 868 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:33,690 purpose the human being is not an 869 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:35,910 accident we're created on this planet 870 00:37:40,970 --> 00:37:38,130 the saga explains how the human came 871 00:37:43,069 --> 00:37:40,980 into existence we're not coming in on a 872 00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:43,079 spaceship or anything else it's from the 873 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:45,720 light of the Sun and they said well we 874 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:47,250 wouldn't have water we wouldn't have 875 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:49,020 life yeah but if we don't have the Sun 876 00:37:54,260 --> 00:37:51,390 the water is ice and you can't drink the 877 00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:54,270 glass of ice so and with no light this 878 00:38:00,410 --> 00:37:56,660 planet would just freeze and die so I 879 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:00,420 always tell people look I understand as 880 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:03,310 the Sun is the creation of life 881 00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:05,470 I don't believe that so it's a 882 00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:06,760 difference now some people believe 883 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:10,120 someone made the Sun now that goes into 884 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:12,400 belief the difference between believing 885 00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:15,810 and understanding is proof that evidence 886 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:18,280 believing requires no proof and no 887 00:38:22,590 --> 00:38:21,010 evidence but understanding you must have 888 00:38:25,350 --> 00:38:22,600 evidence or proof or you cannot 889 00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:25,360 understand anything right obviously the 890 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:28,030 Sun is crucial for life can't argue with 891 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:28,450 that 892 00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:35,200 gave humanity quote special gifts and we 893 00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:37,030 didn't really get to talk about what 894 00:38:44,070 --> 00:38:39,100 those gifts were are you talking about 895 00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:44,080 forms of magic no if you go to the first 896 00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:47,230 man and a first woman because we don't 897 00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:49,360 tell the history backwards like they try 898 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:51,340 to today we come from the beginning to 899 00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:53,260 now you don't read a book when the back 900 00:38:58,620 --> 00:38:55,660 to the front so we give the history from 901 00:39:00,510 --> 00:38:58,630 the beginning so in the saga we explain 902 00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:00,520 about how these first two people were 903 00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:02,440 born in this North Pole in this whole 904 00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:04,870 and what we call Valhalla or this whole 905 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:08,800 that's above this empty tavern and his 906 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:12,130 first masculine was called Bray and his 907 00:39:18,090 --> 00:39:15,670 sister was called Freya and pray was to 908 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:18,100 God what we call the good in root 909 00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:20,530 language we have a English name called 910 00:39:28,590 --> 00:39:26,200 God pray to God pray so these two people 911 00:39:31,770 --> 00:39:28,600 had come from a combination of a monkey 912 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,780 an eight and a goat so we say the 913 00:39:37,350 --> 00:39:33,760 missing link to the human we know where 914 00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:37,360 95 percent eight but there was something 915 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,160 else that was missing and we say in this 916 00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:41,920 story there was a one time happening 917 00:39:46,830 --> 00:39:43,660 usually in the nature animals do not 918 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:46,840 crossbreed but the son decided to create 919 00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:50,440 this new thing called human being and so 920 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:53,020 it was a combination of one eight and 921 00:39:58,530 --> 00:39:55,650 one nanny goat when female goat and 922 00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,540 inside these animals they do not have 923 00:40:04,329 --> 00:40:00,880 what we call sperm or what we call 924 00:40:06,089 --> 00:40:04,339 Sparrow ma end a story 925 00:40:09,370 --> 00:40:06,099 they have something called in block 926 00:40:12,459 --> 00:40:09,380 which is likes parama but it's different 927 00:40:15,759 --> 00:40:12,469 it's a different quality but it says 928 00:40:19,660 --> 00:40:15,769 that in this English we call the sound 929 00:40:21,459 --> 00:40:19,670 pair the father so we're all sons and 930 00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:21,469 we're all daughters of pair we're pair 931 00:40:28,299 --> 00:40:26,259 sons persons' pair sons and the sound ma 932 00:40:30,849 --> 00:40:28,309 mom means mother 933 00:40:33,789 --> 00:40:30,859 we all say most languages say mama and 934 00:40:36,819 --> 00:40:33,799 the word mama comes from the word magma 935 00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:36,829 in English we say magma so we lose the 936 00:40:44,769 --> 00:40:40,160 association with the act but it's M are 937 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:44,779 gay M R and in the middle is the G or 938 00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:47,210 the gay and if you pull the G down you 939 00:40:54,489 --> 00:40:51,920 have ma ma the mama is made of mod mark 940 00:40:57,900 --> 00:40:54,499 the ground is made of magma and as our 941 00:41:01,989 --> 00:40:57,910 mama so the sound ma means the mother 942 00:41:05,410 --> 00:41:01,999 mm-hmm so in that saga it says it when 943 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:05,420 to sprayed his first boy was seven years 944 00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:09,170 old the son gave to him very very 945 00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:11,079 special gift 946 00:41:19,049 --> 00:41:14,910 and it's in our language to sound ASAS 947 00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:19,059 means suelen or son the sound para means 948 00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:21,400 father where sons a pair where pair of 949 00:41:28,259 --> 00:41:24,430 sons and mom means the earth or the 950 00:41:30,959 --> 00:41:28,269 mother so the son gave to the first pair 951 00:41:35,219 --> 00:41:30,969 in the first month something called 952 00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:35,229 espera mom Sara mom this is how this 953 00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:39,880 linguistics worked and so in pray in his 954 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:43,209 balls on his seventh birthday he got the 955 00:41:50,130 --> 00:41:47,440 seed from the Sun and in this seed was 956 00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:50,140 twenty nine sounds what we call the root 957 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:52,630 language so before we had the word we 958 00:41:57,299 --> 00:41:54,609 had to have the sounds to make the word 959 00:42:02,699 --> 00:41:57,309 right so he was given these twenty nine 960 00:42:09,390 --> 00:42:02,709 sounds which go e aa base a day a FK o 961 00:42:16,439 --> 00:42:09,400 ee co LM in a poop out of este ooh they 962 00:42:19,769 --> 00:42:16,449 X 800 and and these 29 sounds were given 963 00:42:21,779 --> 00:42:19,779 to the first man on his planet he got 964 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:21,789 the all ha ha 965 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:25,420 bet all is everything ba is the father 966 00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,170 and Bette means to bait your hook so he 967 00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:31,599 was the Alpha he was the alpha male he 968 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:32,680 was the owl father 969 00:42:41,219 --> 00:42:36,630 so this first alpha got the alphabet 970 00:42:43,469 --> 00:42:41,229 from the Sun and he and his sister they 971 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:43,479 created what they call the root language 972 00:42:48,539 --> 00:42:45,249 the first language on the planet so we 973 00:42:51,809 --> 00:42:48,549 had language from the very beginning so 974 00:42:53,999 --> 00:42:51,819 this language was one gift that the son 975 00:42:56,489 --> 00:42:54,009 gave to the human being that didn't give 976 00:42:58,709 --> 00:42:56,499 to the animal they can't explain a tree 977 00:43:00,689 --> 00:42:58,719 and the color of the leaf and the shape 978 00:43:03,209 --> 00:43:00,699 of the leaf and the small little vein 979 00:43:06,689 --> 00:43:03,219 that goes down and they can't do that so 980 00:43:08,699 --> 00:43:06,699 this linguistics is an incredible gift 981 00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:08,709 that the son gave to the human being 982 00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:11,049 they didn't give to the animals there 983 00:43:15,059 --> 00:43:12,670 were three other things that the son 984 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:15,069 gave to us that the animals didn't get 985 00:43:20,910 --> 00:43:18,190 and one was the linguistic second was 986 00:43:23,759 --> 00:43:20,920 fire the animal he didn't get the fire 987 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:23,769 but the first woman on the planet Freya 988 00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:25,030 was given fire 989 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:27,340 from the Sun and Bo one lightning bolt 990 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:30,370 and the women they needed to inspire 991 00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:33,250 because it was tropical so they didn't 992 00:43:38,610 --> 00:43:35,320 need so much for heat but they needed to 993 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:38,620 extract what we call Tay and Tay they 994 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:41,230 took one stone pot they built one fire 995 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:44,110 underneath the stone pot they fill it 996 00:43:49,290 --> 00:43:45,820 full of water and they collected leaves 997 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,300 from the nature and inside the word leaf 998 00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:52,240 is the word life so to our word life 999 00:43:59,130 --> 00:43:55,900 comes from the word leaf hmm and inside 1000 00:44:01,980 --> 00:43:59,140 these leaves is a property today we call 1001 00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:01,990 it a Ain in the root language we call it 1002 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:05,740 saab in finnish language we call it maja 1003 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:08,620 and in English we call it SAP so there's 1004 00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:10,360 our energy that's in the leaf of the tea 1005 00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:12,310 not to being in the coffee but the leaf 1006 00:44:17,550 --> 00:44:15,160 of the tea and he's woman would boil 1007 00:44:19,260 --> 00:44:17,560 this water when it became to a boil they 1008 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:19,270 would take one stick out but you never 1009 00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:21,490 want to boil the life out of the leaf 1010 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:23,470 and then they would put these leaves in 1011 00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:25,390 and they drank his tea in the morning to 1012 00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:27,070 the night it was petrol for the brain 1013 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:31,120 and the man drank today also so this 1014 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:33,250 fire was important for the human being 1015 00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:35,770 because we needed to make this heat from 1016 00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:37,150 the beginning the women needed 1017 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:39,960 especially the third thing that we got 1018 00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:43,780 the Linguistics the fire was something 1019 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:46,150 called Monta Marty what we call 1020 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:49,810 mathematics and Marty Marty has to do 1021 00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:52,690 with ma ma ma Tama so the women were 1022 00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:56,260 given the Matamata pop up we were given 1023 00:44:59,880 --> 00:44:56,980 something else 1024 00:45:01,470 --> 00:44:59,890 so without mathematics you know we 1025 00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:01,480 couldn't have anything that we have 1026 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:04,260 today it's all based on masters but 1027 00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:06,850 fourth thing that we got was in the 1028 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:09,820 nature when an animal cannot fly a bird 1029 00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:12,310 cannot fly an animal cannot walk and a 1030 00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:15,520 fish cannot swim they fall down and it's 1031 00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:17,560 their last day their soul goes back into 1032 00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:20,710 the earth but the human being in the 1033 00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:23,590 nature time we could wake up one day 1034 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:26,080 cannot walk anymore but we could get one 1035 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:29,050 stick a walking stick and we could still 1036 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:30,730 walk for a little while longer 1037 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:33,610 and so it can nature give that the 1038 00:45:37,290 --> 00:45:35,470 animals couldn't have that stick but the 1039 00:45:38,670 --> 00:45:37,300 human being we can still have a few more 1040 00:45:41,790 --> 00:45:38,680 weeks or months 1041 00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:41,800 with a stick so yeah like tool usage 1042 00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:45,100 basically basically yeah you had a tool 1043 00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:46,870 there do you have something to give you 1044 00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:48,670 that leg if you couldn't stand on 1045 00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:49,360 anymore 1046 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:52,420 and today we'll talk about how we died 1047 00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:55,150 in these times because that's where this 1048 00:46:00,840 --> 00:45:58,570 story goes into right we definitely want 1049 00:46:02,580 --> 00:46:00,850 to relay more material from the saga 1050 00:46:04,890 --> 00:46:02,590 itself but we are pretty late in the 1051 00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:04,900 first hour at this point and I would 1052 00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:07,900 just say that this is pretty damn dense 1053 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:10,780 material and instead of just globbing a 1054 00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:12,730 few more chapters on to what we talked 1055 00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:14,220 about last time I wanted to give people 1056 00:46:19,890 --> 00:46:17,740 the other context of why I think this 1057 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:19,900 stuff is interesting why they might care 1058 00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:22,480 and if they agree they can go down the 1059 00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:24,670 full rabbit hole later because it is 1060 00:46:29,340 --> 00:46:27,640 just way too much for two hours and for 1061 00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:29,350 people who haven't gotten that far into 1062 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:30,160 the box saga 1063 00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:33,130 I recommend that video where Jim sits 1064 00:46:37,890 --> 00:46:35,620 down with the root alphabet in a 1065 00:46:38,970 --> 00:46:37,900 circular ring and you go through the 1066 00:46:41,790 --> 00:46:38,980 story because it's really interesting 1067 00:46:44,970 --> 00:46:41,800 how the whole deep tradition is 1068 00:46:48,450 --> 00:46:44,980 preserved in this root alphabet all in 1069 00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:48,460 order it acts as a sort of mnemonic 1070 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:50,950 device and probably a good lesson in how 1071 00:46:55,770 --> 00:46:52,690 oral traditions can keep their integrity 1072 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,780 over a long period of time anyway and I 1073 00:46:59,570 --> 00:46:57,760 know that the phonetics is a bit of a 1074 00:47:01,350 --> 00:46:59,580 gray area I don't know much about 1075 00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:01,360 linguistics and it's probably a little 1076 00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:03,580 odd to some people that this root 1077 00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:06,190 language would work so well phonetically 1078 00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:08,140 with English when English is a 1079 00:47:12,510 --> 00:47:10,360 relatively recent language and we're 1080 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:12,520 told that things like Hebrew and 1081 00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:16,510 Sanskrit are much older but I guess 1082 00:47:20,730 --> 00:47:18,160 we're really talking about an origin 1083 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:20,740 tradition and cosmology and mythology 1084 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:24,160 for the Scandinavian Nordic people when 1085 00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:26,170 I boil it down to that it's a bit easier 1086 00:47:29,490 --> 00:47:27,160 to swallow 1087 00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:29,500 and again just progressing through the 1088 00:47:35,130 --> 00:47:32,350 saga using the wheel it's just 1089 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:35,140 impressive and seems weird that someone 1090 00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:37,570 would make this up arbitrarily and be so 1091 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:40,780 committed to it plus you know it's tied 1092 00:47:45,390 --> 00:47:42,970 into multiple areas with buried 1093 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:45,400 artifacts and chambers that do seem 1094 00:47:50,860 --> 00:47:48,970 pretty credible it ties into why this 1095 00:47:54,190 --> 00:47:50,870 guy or Bach would have been a 1096 00:47:57,010 --> 00:47:54,200 tact multiple times and his killer not 1097 00:47:59,530 --> 00:47:57,020 held accountable and people kind of need 1098 00:48:01,240 --> 00:47:59,540 to know these things to understand why 1099 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:01,250 they might care about the material 1100 00:48:06,490 --> 00:48:04,250 itself and I don't exactly know what to 1101 00:48:09,370 --> 00:48:06,500 make of the saga at all time some of it 1102 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:09,380 is quite strange but I listen to a lot 1103 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:11,090 of origin stories and they can be 1104 00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:13,730 interesting and contain truths without 1105 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:16,670 becoming my new religion but let me 1106 00:48:20,830 --> 00:48:18,650 throw this at you because you seem like 1107 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:20,840 a pretty spiritual guy a minimalist 1108 00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:22,970 living among nature or the healthy 1109 00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:26,000 meditation practice and all that walk in 1110 00:48:30,940 --> 00:48:28,190 the Gnostic path and earlier you 1111 00:48:33,130 --> 00:48:30,950 mentioned that they did have some sort 1112 00:48:34,690 --> 00:48:33,140 of offering system and then I asked you 1113 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:34,700 about non-human entities or 1114 00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:36,410 intelligences of any kind and you said 1115 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:38,390 that according to the saga there really 1116 00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:41,570 aren't any and that's fine as far as the 1117 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:43,400 material goes and I know you're 1118 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:45,530 committed to it but I am curious with 1119 00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:48,050 this offering system who were these 1120 00:48:51,310 --> 00:48:49,910 offerings made to or with your 1121 00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:51,320 meditation practice have you ever 1122 00:48:56,890 --> 00:48:54,350 encountered something that made you 1123 00:48:58,510 --> 00:48:56,900 question this position on non-physical 1124 00:49:01,060 --> 00:48:58,520 intelligences or have you had an 1125 00:49:03,570 --> 00:49:01,070 out-of-body experience or any of these 1126 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:03,580 sorts of things that tend to happen when 1127 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:06,770 someone does develop a deep spirituality 1128 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:09,410 and live amongst nature has anything 1129 00:49:16,450 --> 00:49:13,130 emerged from that aspect of your life 1130 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,460 that might conflict with this aspect of 1131 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:17,680 the saga 1132 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:21,650 well okay to go into the offering system 1133 00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:23,210 we need to make that another day because 1134 00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:25,280 that's a very very big story and it's 1135 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:28,580 kind of taboo actually in many ways so I 1136 00:49:34,450 --> 00:49:30,770 would prefer maybe not to go into that 1137 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:34,460 offerings to it today sure as far as 1138 00:49:38,290 --> 00:49:36,290 being out of the body I don't know what 1139 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:38,300 can be out of the body your imagination 1140 00:49:41,710 --> 00:49:39,890 can be out of your body but your brain 1141 00:49:43,630 --> 00:49:41,720 is headquarters that's where your love 1142 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:43,640 everything is contained in your brain 1143 00:49:48,850 --> 00:49:45,890 that's your control essential now the 1144 00:49:51,230 --> 00:49:48,860 spirit and this saga the spirit is in 1145 00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:51,240 the breath is in the air 1146 00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:53,849 so when I take my last exhale as I die 1147 00:50:02,270 --> 00:49:58,260 as my last breath goes from my body 1148 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:02,280 that's my spirit leaving the body so the 1149 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:05,010 spirit in root language the spirit is 1150 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:07,290 called on day and breath is called on 1151 00:50:14,299 --> 00:50:10,890 das and in Finnish language the name for 1152 00:50:18,170 --> 00:50:14,309 spirit is called Anki and breath is 1153 00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,180 called hanging us and Hawaiian even the 1154 00:50:23,780 --> 00:50:20,460 sound ha means breath and ha means 1155 00:50:26,450 --> 00:50:23,790 spirit so in many many languages you'll 1156 00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:26,460 get the association to breath and spirit 1157 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,700 are the same now the soul is much 1158 00:50:34,579 --> 00:50:31,680 different it comes from the same thing 1159 00:50:37,630 --> 00:50:34,589 it comes from the Sun but the soul is in 1160 00:50:42,109 --> 00:50:37,640 the cell the body every living cell 1161 00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:42,119 contains soul Sun power and that's the 1162 00:50:46,579 --> 00:50:44,760 soul in the body so when I die my spirit 1163 00:50:49,819 --> 00:50:46,589 leaves and goes into the air there's a 1164 00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:49,829 story about that but my soul is still in 1165 00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:52,920 the body it doesn't leave and so before 1166 00:50:57,289 --> 00:50:55,470 all people were cremated their ashes put 1167 00:50:57,770 --> 00:50:57,299 underneath a family tree that's another 1168 00:51:00,440 --> 00:50:57,780 story 1169 00:51:03,380 --> 00:51:00,450 maybe we can go into that one today how 1170 00:51:04,789 --> 00:51:03,390 we died and these family trees but the 1171 00:51:07,789 --> 00:51:04,799 soul in the spirit there are two 1172 00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,799 different things you know I can sit here 1173 00:51:11,650 --> 00:51:09,839 and close my eyes and imagine that I'm 1174 00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:11,660 sitting up and a limb on the tree 1175 00:51:16,910 --> 00:51:15,270 looking down at myself now I guess you 1176 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:16,920 could call that an out-of-body I'm 1177 00:51:20,780 --> 00:51:19,170 looking at myself standing down on the 1178 00:51:24,260 --> 00:51:20,790 ground underneath the tree and I'm up 1179 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:24,270 but there's no really physical part of 1180 00:51:28,910 --> 00:51:26,130 me that can leave the body my 1181 00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:28,920 imagination so how the body I don't know 1182 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:30,839 what can leave the body 1183 00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:33,450 I would debate that with other people 1184 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:35,040 but you know I think it's just the 1185 00:51:39,799 --> 00:51:38,010 imagination that's leaving and it thinks 1186 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:39,809 you're out there looking back or doing 1187 00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,210 something like that hmm even in these 1188 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:44,400 cases of near-death experience or when 1189 00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,260 people are brought back from the brink 1190 00:51:49,819 --> 00:51:48,480 of death yeah I think these people they 1191 00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:49,829 you know they're on the edge of death 1192 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:52,079 and they black out and they're you know 1193 00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:54,290 unconscious and they feel like they're 1194 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,880 outside the body but I don't know that 1195 00:52:00,859 --> 00:51:59,040 the spirit is going in and out of every 1196 00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:00,869 breath and the soul can't jump out of 1197 00:52:04,819 --> 00:52:02,910 the body it's inside the cell the body 1198 00:52:07,609 --> 00:52:04,829 it can only be in the imaginary 1199 00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,619 as far as I'm concerned well fair enough 1200 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:09,839 that's obviously not what we're really 1201 00:52:13,249 --> 00:52:11,430 here to talk about but I was just 1202 00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,259 curious and maybe we're dealing with 1203 00:52:18,019 --> 00:52:15,599 semantics or it's just an issue of 1204 00:52:20,299 --> 00:52:18,029 definitions because there are a lot of 1205 00:52:22,729 --> 00:52:20,309 cases of people being clinically dead 1206 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:22,739 but also looking down in the room seeing 1207 00:52:26,299 --> 00:52:24,690 or hearing real things that happen and 1208 00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:26,309 relaying those things when they are 1209 00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:29,579 brought back to life and as you said I 1210 00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:31,380 mean spirit can be everywhere 1211 00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:33,660 we're obviously more than just our 1212 00:52:38,839 --> 00:52:36,150 bodies we're going to talk about spirit 1213 00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:38,849 and soul later maybe there's a field 1214 00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,160 there that can contain information that 1215 00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:43,920 we can extract it's a lot to unpack but 1216 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:46,380 let's just get back to the material you 1217 00:52:52,249 --> 00:52:49,170 mentioned how we died in ancient times 1218 00:52:54,620 --> 00:52:52,259 tell us about that you know today we 1219 00:52:59,539 --> 00:52:54,630 have hospitals we have all this miracle 1220 00:53:02,779 --> 00:52:59,549 medicines surgery chemotherapy stem cell 1221 00:53:05,959 --> 00:53:02,789 so we're really mankind is getting sick 1222 00:53:08,049 --> 00:53:05,969 and they're having to find new ways to 1223 00:53:10,430 --> 00:53:08,059 try to make us to be well again because 1224 00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:10,440 the antibiotics aren't working anymore 1225 00:53:16,759 --> 00:53:14,640 the vaccines or you know about those so 1226 00:53:18,709 --> 00:53:16,769 mankind is very sick 1227 00:53:21,799 --> 00:53:18,719 you know in Tubac saga it says in the 1228 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:21,809 Paradise nobody was sick there was no 1229 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,569 people who died from illness but that's 1230 00:53:29,509 --> 00:53:27,119 another story he or his family no one 1231 00:53:31,579 --> 00:53:29,519 ever died of illness they had something 1232 00:53:34,579 --> 00:53:31,589 called their immune system which will go 1233 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:34,589 in another day but in the nature when a 1234 00:53:40,249 --> 00:53:36,930 bird cannot fly in a fish cannot swim 1235 00:53:42,289 --> 00:53:40,259 and an animal cannot walk anymore they 1236 00:53:44,449 --> 00:53:42,299 turn over and they die right there and 1237 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:44,459 their soul that's in the cells of their 1238 00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:47,130 body eventually goes back into the green 1239 00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:51,390 system of the earth in one system so the 1240 00:53:54,890 --> 00:53:52,529 day that they can't do these things 1241 00:53:56,779 --> 00:53:54,900 they're finished but to human being one 1242 00:53:59,150 --> 00:53:56,789 day that we wake up and we can't walk 1243 00:54:01,069 --> 00:53:59,160 anymore we're talking about a time 1244 00:54:04,009 --> 00:54:01,079 before hospitals and before all this 1245 00:54:06,349 --> 00:54:04,019 stuff so we live according to nature we 1246 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:06,359 felt in nature was perfect and we 1247 00:54:09,529 --> 00:54:07,890 couldn't do any better than what the 1248 00:54:11,449 --> 00:54:09,539 nature was today we don't think the 1249 00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:11,459 nature is perfect anymore so we do it 1250 00:54:17,449 --> 00:54:15,119 our own way but I'll take this word acha 1251 00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:17,459 acha and our story is the old woman the 1252 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:18,750 highest woman on the 1253 00:54:23,780 --> 00:54:20,730 she's called akka it's where the word 1254 00:54:26,839 --> 00:54:23,790 academic Academy comes from its where 1255 00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:26,849 Akashic records come from Alcazar Akash 1256 00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,150 and aqus tree was the ash tree it's 1257 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:33,359 where Almanac all Menaka they call it 1258 00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:36,690 all men akka all men come from akka so 1259 00:54:41,810 --> 00:54:39,150 akka the names around his temple is 1260 00:54:44,420 --> 00:54:41,820 called akka because it was the old 1261 00:54:46,910 --> 00:54:44,430 woman's place I can Pez Arantes a name 1262 00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:46,920 for the temple Hill that we live on but 1263 00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:49,470 were there where the temple is so one 1264 00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:52,020 day our cuz she wakes up and she's the 1265 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:54,900 highest woman of the asar she's the 1266 00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:57,890 grandmother and she can't stand anymore 1267 00:55:03,830 --> 00:55:01,920 so this is one side and now she's coming 1268 00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:03,840 close to the end because when you can't 1269 00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:05,849 walk anymore before we went away from 1270 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:08,220 the life we didn't cause a lot of 1271 00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:11,130 problems for people so one day she wakes 1272 00:55:14,839 --> 00:55:13,230 up and she can't get up but she gets a 1273 00:55:16,430 --> 00:55:14,849 stick and now she can still hobble 1274 00:55:19,220 --> 00:55:16,440 around the village and she can still get 1275 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,230 around with his dick and everybody can 1276 00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:21,119 see that now and grandma she's owned a 1277 00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:22,950 stick you know so she doesn't have so 1278 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:25,710 much time left from the life and then 1279 00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:28,650 one day grandmother akka she wakes up 1280 00:55:34,310 --> 00:55:31,140 and she gets her stick and he realizes 1281 00:55:36,349 --> 00:55:34,320 she can still stand with her stick but 1282 00:55:39,260 --> 00:55:36,359 she can't walk with it anymore her legs 1283 00:55:41,540 --> 00:55:39,270 will not travel so on this day the akka 1284 00:55:44,030 --> 00:55:41,550 she sits down and she lets the word out 1285 00:55:46,780 --> 00:55:44,040 into the family that now the grandmother 1286 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:46,790 she can't walk anymore and one by one 1287 00:55:52,970 --> 00:55:49,530 people come to see her that have things 1288 00:55:55,220 --> 00:55:52,980 to say to the grandmother and they sit 1289 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:55,230 down in front of her she has information 1290 00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:56,970 she may want to give them they have 1291 00:56:01,790 --> 00:55:58,980 things they want to say to her and his 1292 00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:01,800 bla bla bla bla back and forth and then 1293 00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:03,630 when there's nothing else to say to the 1294 00:56:07,790 --> 00:56:05,910 grandmother this person would look at 1295 00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:07,800 her in the eyes who was good feeling she 1296 00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:09,960 would go away in the next person and the 1297 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:11,910 next person in the next person one by 1298 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:14,970 one so everybody had their opportunity 1299 00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:17,849 to sit and pail or talk with the 1300 00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:20,550 grandmother in these last days of her 1301 00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:24,230 life and then when everybody does whole 1302 00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:26,910 procedure with these people coming when 1303 00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:28,980 nobody had anything else to say now the 1304 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:31,520 grandmother sitting there they may 1305 00:56:36,490 --> 00:56:33,770 one day we're now the two strongest men 1306 00:56:38,590 --> 00:56:36,500 of the tribe of the clan would come and 1307 00:56:40,750 --> 00:56:38,600 everybody would be bear nobody would 1308 00:56:42,970 --> 00:56:40,760 wear any clothes because we come into 1309 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:42,980 this world bare and we leave the world 1310 00:56:48,430 --> 00:56:45,890 there and these two strongest guys with 1311 00:56:50,410 --> 00:56:48,440 the village of the tribe they would come 1312 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:50,420 and they would hold hands and it would 1313 00:56:54,790 --> 00:56:52,850 make like an ex my holding hands like a 1314 00:56:56,860 --> 00:56:54,800 chair and they would put this 1315 00:56:59,590 --> 00:56:56,870 grandmother up into and they would carry 1316 00:57:02,950 --> 00:56:59,600 her with her stick to the top of one 1317 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:02,960 hill or one cliff called one at the 1318 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:05,810 stupa in the temple tape there you can 1319 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:07,760 see this big tall stone in the back is 1320 00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:09,770 where the akka where she fell from and 1321 00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:12,350 they would carry her up to the top of 1322 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:16,190 this cliff or this hill and there they 1323 00:57:20,140 --> 00:57:18,290 would set her down and she would stand 1324 00:57:21,820 --> 00:57:20,150 it was very important she could still 1325 00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:21,830 stand with the stick she couldn't walk 1326 00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:23,750 but she had to be able to stand she 1327 00:57:27,790 --> 00:57:25,220 didn't want to wait because she couldn't 1328 00:57:29,770 --> 00:57:27,800 stand they would put her there and there 1329 00:57:32,110 --> 00:57:29,780 she'd be standing and all the people who 1330 00:57:34,930 --> 00:57:32,120 had loved her feelings for the 1331 00:57:37,450 --> 00:57:34,940 grandmother all made one queue one line 1332 00:57:39,730 --> 00:57:37,460 behind her as they're carrying her up to 1333 00:57:41,860 --> 00:57:39,740 this hill and in when she's standing 1334 00:57:43,390 --> 00:57:41,870 there they have made a semicircle at the 1335 00:57:46,330 --> 00:57:43,400 bottom of the hill and now she could 1336 00:57:48,220 --> 00:57:46,340 look down into the eyes of her whole 1337 00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:48,230 family there was nothing to say to any 1338 00:57:53,380 --> 00:57:50,560 under she had already said it one by one 1339 00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:53,390 but she's looking down into the eyes of 1340 00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,310 the people who made her life to be what 1341 00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:57,680 it was and they're all looking up and 1342 00:58:02,440 --> 00:57:59,200 her eyes with their grandmother 1343 00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:02,450 matriarch so there is looking at each 1344 00:58:06,970 --> 00:58:03,950 other she's standing there with her 1345 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:06,980 stick and off to one side they would 1346 00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:10,850 always have a ring drawn with a stick in 1347 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,220 the middle and that's a ring with a pole 1348 00:58:20,530 --> 00:58:15,920 in the middle and the Sun made the 1349 00:58:23,110 --> 00:58:20,540 shadow cube it's the sundial and so she 1350 00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,120 could look over and when his son Odin or 1351 00:58:29,530 --> 00:58:26,720 zulan was at 12 o'clock it casts the 1352 00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:29,540 shadow on a certain line at this time 1353 00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:32,750 she would lift her stick up and point it 1354 00:58:37,780 --> 00:58:35,510 straight up to the Sun and she herself 1355 00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:37,790 would look straight to the Sun she she's 1356 00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:40,280 holding her stick up to the Sun she's 1357 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:42,710 looking at the Sun and in this minute 1358 00:58:46,660 --> 00:58:44,930 the people on the ground they 1359 00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:46,670 don't look into her eyes this is your 1360 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:49,430 most private second of your life they 1361 00:58:54,430 --> 00:58:51,650 also looked into the Sun so it was like 1362 00:58:57,130 --> 00:58:54,440 one communication from them their eyes 1363 00:58:59,559 --> 00:58:57,140 looking to the Sun the Sun looking down 1364 00:59:01,569 --> 00:58:59,569 on this whole story and when she lifted 1365 00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:01,579 her stick she couldn't stand anymore and 1366 00:59:06,130 --> 00:59:03,710 she fell straight off the back of this 1367 00:59:08,530 --> 00:59:06,140 cliff and on the way down the last thing 1368 00:59:11,470 --> 00:59:08,540 she saw as she was going down about five 1369 00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:11,480 six seven meters was the Sun which was 1370 00:59:17,170 --> 00:59:13,609 the creator of her life it was her soul 1371 00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:17,180 and this is how we died we were alive at 1372 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:19,430 her own funeral people when you couldn't 1373 00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,170 walk with your stick anymore we went 1374 00:59:26,109 --> 00:59:23,599 away from the life and then they would 1375 00:59:28,089 --> 00:59:26,119 take this old woman they would cremate 1376 00:59:30,339 --> 00:59:28,099 her all people were cremated this is why 1377 00:59:32,410 --> 00:59:30,349 we don't find so many bones from old old 1378 00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:32,420 times because people were cremated and 1379 00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:35,359 these people said that the soul was in 1380 00:59:40,569 --> 00:59:38,960 the ash of the fire and the ash is the 1381 00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:40,579 driest thing on the planet there's 1382 00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:42,319 nothing drier than the ash and they 1383 00:59:46,540 --> 00:59:44,510 would collect this ash from the fire and 1384 00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:46,550 in this ash was the soul of the 1385 00:59:51,609 --> 00:59:49,040 grandmother and in these days we all 1386 00:59:54,490 --> 00:59:51,619 belong to family trees in the north we 1387 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:54,500 all had the oak tree in the paradise we 1388 00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,290 had the palm tree but in this time we 1389 01:00:01,420 --> 00:59:59,359 had the oak tree and our ash was put 1390 01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,430 underneath into the roots of our tree 1391 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:03,680 they were living memorials we didn't 1392 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:06,530 have graveyards you could go to your 1393 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:09,170 family tree and you knew that the ash of 1394 01:00:15,069 --> 01:00:12,650 your older brother was there on top of 1395 01:00:19,150 --> 01:00:15,079 the ash ashes to ashes to ashes to ashes 1396 01:00:21,370 --> 01:00:19,160 and this was how we ended up in the old 1397 01:00:24,490 --> 01:00:21,380 time our soul went underneath our family 1398 01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:24,500 tree and from there this soul is in the 1399 01:00:28,420 --> 01:00:26,390 earth it's in that what we call the 1400 01:00:34,140 --> 01:00:28,430 dance system because the earth is damp 1401 01:00:37,630 --> 01:00:34,150 and the Sun now which sucked this soul 1402 01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:37,640 out of this ash and to the root of the 1403 01:00:46,839 --> 01:00:42,049 tree and now our soul is in the tree in 1404 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:46,849 the form of sob or SAP or mahalo and 1405 01:00:51,579 --> 01:00:49,490 Finnish language and now our soul 1406 01:00:54,130 --> 01:00:51,589 travels up the trunk of the tree to the 1407 01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:54,140 branch and from the branch it goes to 1408 01:00:58,300 --> 01:00:55,910 the small branch and from the small 1409 01:01:01,240 --> 01:00:58,310 branch it goes to the lead 1410 01:01:05,110 --> 01:01:01,250 so our life has gone to the leap of the 1411 01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:05,120 tree and now we're in the lead we be the 1412 01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:08,720 leaf and this is the belief system we be 1413 01:01:14,590 --> 01:01:11,000 the leaf we be the life in the leaf and 1414 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:14,600 now the Sun sucks our leaf our life out 1415 01:01:21,070 --> 01:01:17,810 of the lead the green in the leaf is the 1416 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:21,080 light and this soul is sucked into the 1417 01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:24,290 air and from there in this planet 1418 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:26,000 spinning around and what we call 1419 01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:28,730 centrifugal and root language we call it 1420 01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:31,280 centripetal force this planet is 1421 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:33,590 spinning and the soul goes into the air 1422 01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:36,890 where our spirit also went into the air 1423 01:01:41,410 --> 01:01:39,350 and interesting when we were sitting 1424 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:41,420 straight up and down all soul and spirit 1425 01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,450 were brought back to the hole in the top 1426 01:01:49,390 --> 01:01:46,960 of the axis of the planet to the holy an 1427 01:01:52,780 --> 01:01:49,400 English language they call it hell EGH 1428 01:01:56,590 --> 01:01:52,790 that means holy to hell EGH round the 1429 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:56,600 holy ground so this was what we would 1430 01:02:00,760 --> 01:01:58,010 call the heaven it's not up in the 1431 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:00,770 vacuum up there in space the heaven is 1432 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:02,450 this hole on the top of the North Pole 1433 01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:04,730 this is where all soul went through all 1434 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:07,760 spirit went to and all living things has 1435 01:02:14,110 --> 01:02:11,330 soul and spirit so dogs frogs everything 1436 01:02:15,940 --> 01:02:14,120 it dies there is no place for bad people 1437 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:15,950 there is no place where good people also 1438 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:19,970 goes through the hole in our story hmm 1439 01:02:24,820 --> 01:02:22,970 well I like all that it seems to jive 1440 01:02:27,790 --> 01:02:24,830 with an animist perspective to a degree 1441 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:27,800 and it sounds like a much healthier 1442 01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:31,010 tradition than respirators and breathing 1443 01:02:36,370 --> 01:02:33,320 tubes and shitty cafeteria food and 1444 01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:36,380 these sad death rooms that are foreign 1445 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:38,000 and cold and boring 1446 01:02:43,420 --> 01:02:41,450 you just rack up a huge bill for the 1447 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:43,430 loved ones you leave behind that's no 1448 01:02:48,250 --> 01:02:45,890 good and I've also always loved the idea 1449 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:48,260 of a living funeral because the way we 1450 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:51,770 do things now where we don't pour our 1451 01:02:57,010 --> 01:02:54,170 hearts out until the person's gone it 1452 01:03:00,310 --> 01:02:57,020 just seems like the worst timing ever 1453 01:03:02,860 --> 01:03:00,320 but we just keep doing it this way man 1454 01:03:04,810 --> 01:03:02,870 it's another tangent but I've also 1455 01:03:07,810 --> 01:03:04,820 wondered if there isn't some type of 1456 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:07,820 conspiracy angle to our modern casket in 1457 01:03:11,390 --> 01:03:09,530 the ground tradition because the 1458 01:03:13,849 --> 01:03:11,400 ancients seem to have a much better on 1459 01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:13,859 standing of the life death cycle and 1460 01:03:19,250 --> 01:03:16,680 they seem to care a lot about processing 1461 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:19,260 their dead for that stage we know the 1462 01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:21,210 religious authorities killed off all 1463 01:03:26,089 --> 01:03:23,309 these traditions and replaced them with 1464 01:03:29,329 --> 01:03:26,099 empty meaningless husks in a lot of 1465 01:03:31,490 --> 01:03:29,339 cases maybe their funeral process does 1466 01:03:33,799 --> 01:03:31,500 more to trap our body underground or to 1467 01:03:35,420 --> 01:03:33,809 keep us from moving on just because it 1468 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:35,430 seems like people did have a handle on 1469 01:03:40,460 --> 01:03:37,650 the process and maybe that information 1470 01:03:44,059 --> 01:03:40,470 was used to twist the traditions and 1471 01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:44,069 hold us back in this case as it has in 1472 01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:45,299 others where something more meaningful 1473 01:03:52,130 --> 01:03:49,920 and useful preceded it well I love it 1474 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,140 man and I really appreciate your time it 1475 01:03:57,410 --> 01:03:54,240 was great to talk to you again I think 1476 01:03:59,480 --> 01:03:57,420 you're a really interesting Zen humble 1477 01:04:01,609 --> 01:03:59,490 and skilled storyteller who really 1478 01:04:03,769 --> 01:04:01,619 embraces that off-the-grid life and I 1479 01:04:06,049 --> 01:04:03,779 think that's awesome that you become 1480 01:04:07,609 --> 01:04:06,059 such an expert in this body of work it's 1481 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:07,619 a bit of a rare thing to see in modern 1482 01:04:12,349 --> 01:04:11,130 times so I salute you for it and if 1483 01:04:14,539 --> 01:04:12,359 there's anything else to tell people 1484 01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:14,549 about where they can digest more 1485 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:17,099 material please let them know Greg just 1486 01:04:22,099 --> 01:04:19,920 you know I appreciate so much you're on 1487 01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:22,109 the cutting edge I can't tell you how 1488 01:04:26,029 --> 01:04:24,240 much the planet needs people like you I 1489 01:04:27,859 --> 01:04:26,039 mean you're really something else and I 1490 01:04:29,690 --> 01:04:27,869 really appreciate it you gave me the 1491 01:04:32,269 --> 01:04:29,700 space to put a little bit more of this 1492 01:04:34,460 --> 01:04:32,279 and if you ever want to go into some 1493 01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:34,470 more stuff if I'm still breathing I'll 1494 01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,420 I'll do any more shows you want to do 1495 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:38,880 and just keep up your brilliant [\h__\h] 1496 01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:41,520 work and keep that spliff smoking 1497 01:04:46,339 --> 01:04:43,470 brother hey men and Cheers 1498 01:04:50,109 --> 01:04:46,349 you are too kind well thanks again I 1499 01:04:52,940 --> 01:04:50,119 will say bock saga dotnet is a pretty 1500 01:04:55,339 --> 01:04:52,950 great website it's pretty well done 1501 01:04:58,700 --> 01:04:55,349 pretty high-quality and it does contain 1502 01:05:01,039 --> 01:04:58,710 a lot of the cliff notes at least to 1503 01:05:03,319 --> 01:05:01,049 what we've talked about so let that be 1504 01:05:06,260 --> 01:05:03,329 something people can take away of course 1505 01:05:09,769 --> 01:05:06,270 you can look up gems long long 1506 01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:09,779 multi-hour presentations and pow wows on 1507 01:05:15,890 --> 01:05:12,089 youtube also recorded in really 1508 01:05:19,130 --> 01:05:15,900 high-quality 4k video it seems so there 1509 01:05:21,049 --> 01:05:19,140 are some things out there to follow up 1510 01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:21,059 on if any of this resonated with the 1511 01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:23,940 people and Jim thanks again and take 1512 01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:25,470 care out there mister 1513 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:27,240 would appreciate so much I would 1514 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:28,890 appreciate you send me a link so I can 1515 01:05:37,690 --> 01:05:32,730 listen to all my mistakes indeed I will 1516 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:37,700 have a going man Aloha Aloha 1517 01:05:44,860 --> 01:05:41,450 and boom goes that box Agha dynamite 1518 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:44,870 people finally finally we can scratch a 1519 01:05:51,460 --> 01:05:48,170 part too with Jim Chester off the list I 1520 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:51,470 would say he is right up there as one of 1521 01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:54,170 the most requested guests to get back 1522 01:05:59,620 --> 01:05:57,440 and I am intrigued by the box saga but 1523 01:06:02,590 --> 01:05:59,630 instead of just diving straight into its 1524 01:06:05,230 --> 01:06:02,600 contents again I wanted to talk about 1525 01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:05,240 its surrounding context this time the 1526 01:06:10,990 --> 01:06:08,420 stabbings of Eeyore Bock the radar scans 1527 01:06:12,940 --> 01:06:11,000 that seemed to check out of places that 1528 01:06:16,210 --> 01:06:12,950 a or said there would be something and 1529 01:06:18,370 --> 01:06:16,220 then there is because that surrounding 1530 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:18,380 stuff I think is just as important as to 1531 01:06:23,620 --> 01:06:20,930 why you might want to give the material 1532 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:23,630 a second look because you can find the 1533 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:25,730 five hour videos of Jim laying out 1534 01:06:30,310 --> 01:06:27,650 aspects of the saga you can go to the 1535 01:06:33,180 --> 01:06:30,320 website you can look as deeply into the 1536 01:06:35,530 --> 01:06:33,190 material itself as you want without me 1537 01:06:37,210 --> 01:06:35,540 but what I thought would be unique is 1538 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:37,220 getting into those curiosities that 1539 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:39,410 surround it and also asking Jim a couple 1540 01:06:44,290 --> 01:06:41,210 of questions about his own thoughts and 1541 01:06:46,810 --> 01:06:44,300 ideas and life because the Box saga 1542 01:06:49,690 --> 01:06:46,820 material is so dense that you can spend 1543 01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:49,700 two hours just sticking to it and never 1544 01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:52,160 really getting to know Jim any better 1545 01:06:55,870 --> 01:06:54,020 and I think he's a fascinating guy I 1546 01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:55,880 mean he did have a better microphone 1547 01:07:00,640 --> 01:06:58,250 this time and no rooster crowing in the 1548 01:07:02,620 --> 01:07:00,650 background or maybe you know maybe I'm 1549 01:07:05,380 --> 01:07:02,630 just in it for the coffee last time as a 1550 01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:05,390 thank you Jim did send me a care package 1551 01:07:11,380 --> 01:07:08,270 from Hawaii with a lighter and a bowl 1552 01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:11,390 and some really great coffee which is 1553 01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:14,720 just a nice genuine thing to do way 1554 01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:16,880 above and beyond and you can never have 1555 01:07:20,830 --> 01:07:17,830 too much coffee 1556 01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:20,840 but yeah I know Jim is very committed of 1557 01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:22,910 course to preserving the saga and the 1558 01:07:29,350 --> 01:07:26,350 saga his life his paradigm is the saga 1559 01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:29,360 and I do appreciate that commitment I 1560 01:07:34,660 --> 01:07:31,910 don't have any real body of work that I 1561 01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:34,670 put full stock into that degree I don't 1562 01:07:39,820 --> 01:07:37,000 have that much passion about anything 1563 01:07:42,370 --> 01:07:39,830 specifically and I don't want to say 1564 01:07:44,650 --> 01:07:42,380 that I take the material with a grain of 1565 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:44,660 salt because that's not true but if it 1566 01:07:48,970 --> 01:07:46,850 is a long-standing oral tradition it's 1567 01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:48,980 interesting enough just to unpack it 1568 01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:51,510 from that standpoint or think of it 1569 01:07:54,650 --> 01:07:53,220 like a historical archive kind of 1570 01:07:56,830 --> 01:07:54,660 situation because there are all kinds of 1571 01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:56,840 indigenous cultures that have 1572 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:01,520 cosmologies or stories that might seem 1573 01:08:06,620 --> 01:08:03,570 outdated with the knowledge that 1574 01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,630 humanity has gotten in the time sense 1575 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:08,880 but at the same time we're wrong about a 1576 01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,010 lot we don't have answers for a lot and 1577 01:08:15,530 --> 01:08:13,440 science is making a lot of [\h__\h] up so 1578 01:08:17,499 --> 01:08:15,540 going back to these old stories is 1579 01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:17,509 interesting but you kind of have to 1580 01:08:24,380 --> 01:08:20,279 weigh both of those things at the same 1581 01:08:26,749 --> 01:08:24,390 time and the Box saga does have a lot in 1582 01:08:28,610 --> 01:08:26,759 it that is wildly different than the way 1583 01:08:30,829 --> 01:08:28,620 we typically think about certain things 1584 01:08:33,050 --> 01:08:30,839 but he does say it's based in 1585 01:08:36,740 --> 01:08:33,060 linguistics and logic and you can kind 1586 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:36,750 of see where a box Augean might be 1587 01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,210 coming from I kind of think of it like 1588 01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:41,520 the Bible here's this big container of 1589 01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:43,680 material maybe you don't find something 1590 01:08:49,309 --> 01:08:46,500 of value in every chapter but maybe it's 1591 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:49,319 a different lens than the one you 1592 01:08:53,210 --> 01:08:52,080 typically look through and maybe you see 1593 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:53,220 something where you're like oh now 1594 01:08:57,980 --> 01:08:54,690 that's interesting I never thought about 1595 01:09:00,019 --> 01:08:57,990 it like that before and hopefully you 1596 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:00,029 had a few of those moments today you 1597 01:09:04,190 --> 01:09:01,890 know Jim did follow up with me and he 1598 01:09:06,499 --> 01:09:04,200 sent me an image of an old map where the 1599 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:06,509 original prime meridian is exactly where 1600 01:09:11,420 --> 01:09:08,330 he says it's gonna be the longitude line 1601 01:09:13,519 --> 01:09:11,430 that zero point it does pass right 1602 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:13,529 through house inky straight on through 1603 01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:16,170 Crete and I was looking into the reason 1604 01:09:19,849 --> 01:09:18,150 that it's not there anymore and 1605 01:09:22,220 --> 01:09:19,859 understandably it was common for a 1606 01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:22,230 civilization to form their own map and 1607 01:09:27,050 --> 01:09:24,450 put themselves at that zero longitude 1608 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:27,060 line but the reason the current 1609 01:09:31,849 --> 01:09:29,850 consensus is what it is would be because 1610 01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:31,859 of the International Meridian conference 1611 01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:35,759 in 1884 which took place in Washington 1612 01:09:41,870 --> 01:09:39,779 DC actually 25 nations came together and 1613 01:09:44,690 --> 01:09:41,880 they agreed on this new standard that 1614 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:44,700 put surprise-surprise Greenwich England 1615 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:47,970 at the zero mark and I don't know how 1616 01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:49,770 much there is really to unpack about 1617 01:09:54,019 --> 01:09:51,420 that but Jim might say that this was 1618 01:09:57,140 --> 01:09:54,029 because they wanted to obscure or hide 1619 01:09:59,690 --> 01:09:57,150 the importance of the Helsinki area the 1620 01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,700 whole the Inner Earth or you know if 1621 01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,920 earth-three established its balance how 1622 01:10:06,859 --> 01:10:03,360 sinky would be a 1623 01:10:08,899 --> 01:10:06,869 very important place and so why not form 1624 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:08,909 a new standard before something like 1625 01:10:13,609 --> 01:10:11,489 that were to happen I also wasn't 1626 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:13,619 kidding about several listeners who have 1627 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:15,330 been to Finland and sought out some of 1628 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:17,850 these areas Jim talks about that kind of 1629 01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:20,489 blew my mind a bit creating a show that 1630 01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:24,030 drives some people that far that's kind 1631 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:27,000 of cool to be involved in but for me 1632 01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:29,730 what I need is that goddamn temple 1633 01:10:34,879 --> 01:10:32,760 opened I hope we get it I really do and 1634 01:10:36,770 --> 01:10:34,889 Jim is definitely gonna keep me posted 1635 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:36,780 but a lot of the things we talked about 1636 01:10:40,459 --> 01:10:39,090 on this show they get to this point 1637 01:10:43,129 --> 01:10:40,469 where it's like oh well we could get 1638 01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:43,139 proof if we could only do X and a lot of 1639 01:10:48,890 --> 01:10:46,500 times X is not really feasible a lot of 1640 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:48,900 times that X is outside of our means or 1641 01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:52,130 it takes millions of dollars this X 1642 01:10:56,649 --> 01:10:54,239 seems well within the realm of 1643 01:10:59,840 --> 01:10:56,659 possibility we know exactly where to go 1644 01:11:04,310 --> 01:10:59,850 apparently we only have to dig down a 1645 01:11:06,580 --> 01:11:04,320 couple of meters let's do it it just 1646 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:06,590 gets frustrating to me sometimes 1647 01:11:11,570 --> 01:11:09,210 digesting all this material trying to 1648 01:11:15,530 --> 01:11:11,580 get a smoking gun to validate some of it 1649 01:11:17,810 --> 01:11:15,540 and it's always just out of grasp but I 1650 01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:17,820 am trying to keep the faith guys at 1651 01:11:22,430 --> 01:11:20,040 least on a few things so if you only 1652 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:22,440 heard the first hour with Jim which is 1653 01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:24,210 largely taken out by me trying to talk 1654 01:11:28,430 --> 01:11:25,920 about this surrounding stuff out on the 1655 01:11:31,129 --> 01:11:28,440 edges in the Plus show we did talk about 1656 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:31,139 more of the specific material and 1657 01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:34,170 teachings in the saga stuff like what it 1658 01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:36,659 has to say about the 13 original races 1659 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:39,270 on the planet and how we progressed the 1660 01:11:43,850 --> 01:11:41,489 truth and misunderstandings about the 1661 01:11:46,939 --> 01:11:43,860 heart the history of the hemp plant and 1662 01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:46,949 its presence in that box saga and we 1663 01:11:52,010 --> 01:11:49,199 talked about that Graham Hancock cedar 1664 01:11:53,330 --> 01:11:52,020 culture perspective that a group went 1665 01:11:55,490 --> 01:11:53,340 out and taught the rest of us some 1666 01:11:58,910 --> 01:11:55,500 things and how that might jive with the 1667 01:12:02,120 --> 01:11:58,920 Box saga as well as the sagas 1668 01:12:04,129 --> 01:12:02,130 perspective on the pyramids which was a 1669 01:12:06,379 --> 01:12:04,139 theory on the pyramids of course they're 1670 01:12:08,959 --> 01:12:06,389 all over the planet not just the Giza 1671 01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:08,969 Plateau but it was a theory that I've 1672 01:12:13,580 --> 01:12:11,280 never really heard before it's kind of 1673 01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,590 practical but it really makes a lot of 1674 01:12:17,150 --> 01:12:16,080 sense because it relates to the lives of 1675 01:12:18,650 --> 01:12:17,160 the people at the time 1676 01:12:21,820 --> 01:12:18,660 why would they want to build something 1677 01:12:25,460 --> 01:12:21,830 like this well his explanation I think 1678 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:25,470 fits the mold plus people let me know 1679 01:12:28,730 --> 01:12:27,210 what you think about that because I 1680 01:12:31,670 --> 01:12:28,740 found that to be one of the most fun 1681 01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:31,680 aspects of today if you want to be a 1682 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:33,630 plus member of the higher side chats + 1683 01:12:39,410 --> 01:12:37,050 comm signup to hear those second hours 1684 01:12:41,650 --> 01:12:39,420 you can click on the linkage right 1685 01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:41,660 through your RSS feed you're right there 1686 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:44,870 help a brother out help yourselves out 1687 01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:48,330 or just do whatever you want but I am so 1688 01:12:52,340 --> 01:12:50,160 happy with that last show that we did 1689 01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:52,350 with Corey Daniel I know it's become a 1690 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:54,360 new favorite for a lot of people that's 1691 01:12:57,710 --> 01:12:55,170 excellent 1692 01:13:00,890 --> 01:12:57,720 I know I had people waiting for a new 1693 01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,900 show for awhile and we got to talking on 1694 01:13:04,190 --> 01:13:02,400 the plus site and I commented that I'm 1695 01:13:07,370 --> 01:13:04,200 sorry for the drought but now that flood 1696 01:13:11,710 --> 01:13:07,380 is coming and you know and then we had 1697 01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:11,720 five more days of dark dreary dryness so 1698 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:14,100 flood might have been a bit of an 1699 01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:16,650 exaggeration but really I have to have 1700 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:19,140 five shows for you every month that is 1701 01:13:24,020 --> 01:13:22,170 my commitment and if we went 14 days 1702 01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:24,030 without a show this month and clearly 1703 01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,120 four more are coming before the month 1704 01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:29,760 ends so it's a flood by a certain 1705 01:13:34,460 --> 01:13:31,110 standard maybe it's more of a light 1706 01:13:37,940 --> 01:13:34,470 sprinkle but they're coming again I'm 1707 01:13:41,300 --> 01:13:37,950 sorry I had life obligations some travel 1708 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:41,310 some sickness some family stuff some 1709 01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:44,490 editor vacation stuff but I got nothing 1710 01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:46,710 going on for the rest of the year 1711 01:13:51,650 --> 01:13:49,110 as far as I know but sitting here and 1712 01:13:54,580 --> 01:13:51,660 working on THC so once we get caught up 1713 01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:54,590 here we're going to stay caught up 1714 01:13:59,690 --> 01:13:57,120 because obviously things always unfold 1715 01:14:00,800 --> 01:13:59,700 exactly as we think they will that said 1716 01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,810 here we are 1717 01:14:05,090 --> 01:14:03,360 this makes two and then the next one is 1718 01:14:06,740 --> 01:14:05,100 coming soon and it's really great and 1719 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:06,750 then the one after that's a little and 1720 01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:09,210 then the one after that is right back to 1721 01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:09,960 being great 1722 01:14:16,430 --> 01:14:13,710 sohe lots of shows in the pipeline also 1723 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:16,440 six days until the next joint session 1724 01:14:23,090 --> 01:14:20,610 October 25th 7:00 p.m. Pacific time come 1725 01:14:25,670 --> 01:14:23,100 and tell me about your inside scoops and 1726 01:14:27,620 --> 01:14:25,680 strange experiences the sorts of things 1727 01:14:30,260 --> 01:14:27,630 that are fascinating to hear but 1728 01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:30,270 probably don't take up two hours don't 1729 01:14:34,420 --> 01:14:31,280 need a full 1730 01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:34,430 show I had a lot of people contacting me 1731 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:37,190 actually or commenting about Native 1732 01:14:41,530 --> 01:14:39,530 American stories or insight or added 1733 01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,540 details things about the desert that 1734 01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:44,000 weren't in the last show and calling in 1735 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:46,040 for the joint sessions is really the 1736 01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:49,010 perfect time to add those details to 1737 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:51,110 talk about those things so I hope you 1738 01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:53,210 are listening and I hope you're going to 1739 01:14:57,610 --> 01:14:54,950 be available but I'm going to go ahead 1740 01:14:59,740 --> 01:14:57,620 and get out of here I've done what I can 1741 01:15:01,870 --> 01:14:59,750 your move history stealers oral 1742 01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:01,880 tradition destroyers and bock saga 1743 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:02,960 suppressors 1744 01:15:12,850 --> 01:15:07,130 you're [\h__\h] know the plan has always 1745 01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:12,860 been MK I'm just trying to drive you 1746 01:15:17,380 --> 01:15:14,470 insane 1747 01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:17,390 they'll explode your heart if you think 1748 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:20,480 that's what it means you think I'm 1749 01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:25,130 answering the phone when I aim you gotta 1750 01:15:30,250 --> 01:15:27,830 keep it learner's John cuz I don't want 1751 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:30,260 anyone thinking you're at home well 1752 01:15:37,090 --> 01:15:33,290 you're not you should tape the mail slot 1753 01:15:40,090 --> 01:15:37,100 and baby if I seem withdrawn let me sing 1754 01:15:43,900 --> 01:15:40,100 it's good I just don't wanna go and get 1755 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:43,910 whacked maybe you should know that the 1756 01:15:50,959 --> 01:15:46,400 trauma of sex do you like it does 1757 01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:50,969 everyone it's just the game when it's 1758 01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:54,510 the world's become they want a pet 1759 01:16:01,040 --> 01:15:57,239 demand us what don't you see what's 1760 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:01,050 going on well now you know you're better 1761 01:16:09,229 --> 01:16:04,170 came in on your bunkers you can't leave 1762 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:09,239 the mast is lacking much Oh baby you can 1763 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:14,810 only trust yourself and if you think the 1764 01:16:21,769 --> 01:16:18,810 systems out of touch it is and you can 1765 01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:21,779 only trust yourself 1766 01:16:29,269 --> 01:16:25,409 I hope you know really aren't your 1767 01:16:30,969 --> 01:16:29,279 friends the suck out everything from you 1768 01:16:34,579 --> 01:16:30,979 in the end 1769 01:16:38,329 --> 01:16:34,589 and if for some reason you think I might 1770 01:16:42,589 --> 01:16:38,339 be wrong I wonder where you got that 1771 01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:42,599 opinion from you gotta keep the turn 1772 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:45,209 John cuz you don't want anyone thinking 1773 01:16:51,889 --> 01:16:48,449 you're at home well you're not you 1774 01:16:54,829 --> 01:16:51,899 should tape the mail slot and baby if I 1775 01:16:57,499 --> 01:16:54,839 sleep with John let me sing it's cuz I 1776 01:17:01,069 --> 01:16:57,509 just don't wanna go and get whacked 1777 01:17:05,569 --> 01:17:01,079 maybe you should know that the trauma 1778 01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:05,579 upsets you like it does everyone it's 1779 01:17:12,139 --> 01:17:08,249 just the game when it's were the world's 1780 01:17:15,169 --> 01:17:12,149 because they want a pat down in the 1781 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:15,179 swamp don't you see what's going on well 1782 01:17:20,010 --> 01:17:16,530 now 1783 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:20,020 you're better came in on your round cuz 1784 01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:24,489 you can see the Masters laughing much oh 1785 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:29,830 baby you can only trust yourself and if 1786 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:34,330 you think the system's out of touch it 1787 01:17:57,630 --> 01:17:36,610 is and you can only trust 1788 01:18:01,360 --> 01:17:57,640 [Music] 1789 01:18:05,890 --> 01:18:01,370 you might think that these problems are 1790 01:18:10,090 --> 01:18:05,900 small maybe they aren't registering at 1791 01:18:14,590 --> 01:18:10,100 all now they know you're naive and 1792 01:18:16,620 --> 01:18:14,600 vulnerable you won't believe all of the 1793 01:18:20,020 --> 01:18:16,630 sense that Dell poem 1794 01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:20,030 cuz you can't leave the mountains 1795 01:18:29,190 --> 01:18:23,630 there's not too much oh baby you can 1796 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:29,200 only trust yourself and if you think the 1797 01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:33,170 systems out of touch it is and you can 1798 01:18:42,490 --> 01:18:37,760 only trust yourself because you can see 1799 01:18:46,990 --> 01:18:42,500 the Masters lied too much oh baby you 1800 01:18:51,460 --> 01:18:47,000 can only trust yourself and if you think 1801 01:18:53,900 --> 01:18:51,470 it is the system's out of touch it is